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Proganda post #2 for today. Man ..he just eats blocks for breakfast in this video. He also doesn't delay on his second bounce, he switches fast to the perimeter and he shows range on his shot and he passes, drives and he runs the floor fast. Granted most of the blocks are on guards but there is one block on a guy who is super heavy, big and long. He takes the bump and eats up the ball on a block. That will translate.


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whatthe said:
Proganda post #2 for today. Man ..he just eats blocks for breakfast in this video. He also doesn't delay on his second bounce, he switches fast to the perimeter and he shows range on his shot and he passes, drives and he runs the floor fast. Granted most of the blocks are on guards but there is one block on a guy who is super heavy, big and long. He takes the bump and eats up the ball on a block. That will translate.


View: https://youtu.be/m5YlNIoGNEI?si=Dlnk2bP2IJfV6j8t
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These guys are nobodies
 
whatthe said:
Proganda post #2 for today. Man ..he just eats blocks for breakfast in this video. He also doesn't delay on his second bounce, he switches fast to the perimeter and he shows range on his shot and he passes, drives and he runs the floor fast. Granted most of the blocks are on guards but there is one block on a guy who is super heavy, big and long. He takes the bump and eats up the ball on a block. That will translate.


View: https://youtu.be/m5YlNIoGNEI?si=Dlnk2bP2IJfV6j8t
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He’s not as fluid as I was hoping, but he’s big, he plays hard and tries to make the right play. I think he’ll play in the league, but he needs a solid year or two of development and it’s not clear if he’ll ever be a starter.

I think he’s a better prospect than Kabengele a few years back, if that’s worth anything.
 
Ferguson_Mellochill said:
He’s not as fluid as I was hoping, but he’s big, he plays hard and tries to make the right play. I think he’ll play in the league, but he needs a solid year or two of development and it’s not clear if he’ll ever be a starter.

I think he’s a better prospect than Kabengele a few years back, if that’s worth anything.
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Good call back on Kabengele and Kabengele was a much better prospect.
 
If the Jazz can't move up for someone they really like, and no one obvious falls, I think they're going to seriously consider Kyshawn George at #10. He's long, he makes some plays with his passing and he can shoot the ball. His lack of explosion results in him not being able to beat defenders, and he rarely gets to the rim, so he'll probably be rendered a floor spacer and complementary player in the mold of a Joe Ingles. However, he still fits the Jazz potentially as a cog who defends on the perimeter, moves the ball and makes open shots.

Ron Holland would give the Jazz some defensive playmaking and some rim finishing, but the lack of shooting is pretty glaring.
 
It’s popular to compare everyone to Jaden McDaniels these days….but I actually think Ron Holland fits that mold. Yeah….the shot making/number one option stuff isn’t real. But you combine those physical tools with a dog mentality and you’ll probably find yourself with a really good defender.
 
Ferguson_Mellochill said:
If the Jazz can't move up for someone they really like, and no one obvious falls, I think they're going to seriously consider Kyshawn George at #10. He's long, he makes some plays with his passing and he can shoot the ball. His lack of explosion results in him not being able to beat defenders, and he rarely gets to the rim, so he'll probably be rendered a floor spacer and complementary player in the mold of a Joe Ingles. However, he still fits the Jazz potentially as a cog who defends on the perimeter, moves the ball and makes open shots.

Ron Holland would give the Jazz some defensive playmaking and some rim finishing, but the lack of shooting is pretty glaring.
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Please stop. The Jazz would trade their pick before wasting it on George at 10.
 
KqWIN said:
It’s popular to compare everyone to Jaden McDaniels these days….but I actually think Ron Holland fits that mold. Yeah….the shot making/number one option stuff isn’t real. But you combine those physical tools with a dog mentality and you’ll probably find yourself with a really good defender.
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But Jaden can shoot it at a decent level..... Not really comparable at all. Different type of athletes. Different players completely.
 
Ferguson_Mellochill said:
George is easily a 1st-round prospect and reportedly someone the Jazz like. That take is pretty off.
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He's probably in consideration in the 20's for some people, but he isnt a consensus 1st round player according to mocks currently.

The Jazz can "like" a lot of players the same way you like someone you have a one night stand with. Doesnt mean you want to commit to that person.
 
KyShawn George scored over 20 once all season and it had to happen in a OT game.

The moment he gets drafted he's going to be a bottom 5th percentile athlete. He's not a damn lottery pick and he's probably going to bust out of the NBA within 3 years.

He;s not a young Freshman either! He turns 21 in December!

This reminds me of your obsession with Dalen Terry, a guy who is going to be out of the NBA once his rookie deal is over.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
KyShawn George scored over 20 once all season and it had to happen in a OT game.

The moment he gets drafted he's going to be a bottom 10th percentile athlete. He's not a damn lottery pick and he's probably going to bust out of the NBA within 3 years.

He;s not a young Freshman either! He turns 21 in December!

This reminds me of your obsession with Dalen Terry, a guy who is going to be out of the NBA once his rookie deal is over.
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First of all, I wasn't *obsessed* with Dalen Terry. I said he was a good prospect outside the top 15, which clearly he was since he got drafted at #18. He got injured, didn't play, and didn't develop, but that happens with a number of prospects.

Second, you're probably the only one on the planet with that prophecy for Kyshawn George, and your only useful take this year has been that you like someone taking a chance on Edey in the lottery. Otherwise, you've just been lurking around and bagging on other people's takes without making any real argument or contribution. In other words, you're kind of a troll at this point, and your arrogance is completely unfounded.
 
Ferguson_Mellochill said:
First of all, I wasn't *obsessed* with Dalen Terry. I said he was a good prospect outside the top 15, which clearly he was since he got drafted at #18. He got injured, didn't play, and didn't develop, but that happens with a number of prospects.

Second, you're probably the only one on the planet with that prophecy for Kyshawn George, and your only useful take this year has been that you like someone taking a chance on Edey in the lottery. Otherwise, you've just been lurking around and bagging on other people's takes without making any real argument or contribution. In other words, you're kind of a troll at this point, and your arrogance is completely unfounded.
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I dont do draft day predictions. I give out facts on players and use those facts to best guess at career outcomes. I have plenty of draft takes. I just dont do sensationalism and faux-insider knowledge takes like "I think the Jazz will seriously consider Kyshawn George at 10"

Sorry if you are just getting sensitive for someone calling out a terrible take.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
But Jaden can shoot it at a decent level..... Not really comparable at all. Different type of athletes. Different players completely.
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Eh...Jaden is a below average shooter. Almost all of his value as a player comes from his ability to play defense. Holland will still have to get to that level as a shooter, but so do many players in this draft. Every player Castle/Buzelis/ect. gets compared to, they will have to improve his shooting. Doesn't mean they cannot be compared.

When Jaden was coming into the draft, there weren't many people talking about his defense and most people were talking about his pullup shooting game (which was awful and why he fell). Likewise, I think most people are talking about Hollands struggle as a scorer. While those criticisms are fair, I do think the defensive potential is being overlooked. I think people should see Holland as a defense first prospect with some upside on offense.
 
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Dadiet smokes Kyshawn in KyShawn's only positive skill lmfao
 
KqWIN said:
Eh...Jaden is a below average shooter. Almost all of his value as a player comes from his ability to play defense. Holland will still have to get to that level as a shooter, but so do many players in this draft. Every player Castle/Buzelis/ect. gets compared to, they will have to improve his shooting. Doesn't mean they cannot be compared.

When Jaden was coming into the draft, there weren't many people talking about his defense and most people were talking about his pullup shooting game (which was awful and why he fell). Likewise, I think most people are talking about Hollands struggle as a scorer. While those criticisms are fair, I do think the defensive potential is being overlooked. I think people should see Holland as a defense first prospect with some upside on offense.
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He's not a below average shooter. If anything he is exactly average. Career 35% from 3 in 4 years and career 44% in the playoffs through 21 games. If that's below average then that's insane. Let's have some intellectual honesty here. I get these arent difficult 3's, but he knocks them down at a rate that is not "below average".
 
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