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KqWIN said:
It’s hard to overstate just how bad the GLeague Ignite were last season. They were 6-44. That’s a 12% win rate which is less than 10 wins over an 82 games season. Their net rating was -14.5. Second worse was -6. They were more than double as bad as the second worst team in the league. Incredible how overmatched they were.
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They folded the team… that’s how bad they were.
 
KqWIN said:
It’s hard to overstate just how bad the GLeague Ignite were last season. They were 6-44. That’s a 12% win rate which is less than 10 wins over an 82 games season. Their net rating was -14.5. Second worse was -6. They were more than double as bad as the second worst team in the league. Incredible how overmatched they were.
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They had no point guard and Holland and Buzelis had to create their own shots.
 
BTW, a lot of people say Holland was "efficient" and cite his TS. Just remember that TS% is bunk and inflated for all G-League stats. Do not use it. I don't think we should look too much into the G-League stats anyways because they were completely over matched. But just for fun, here are some G-League players last season:

Player A (per36)

PTS - 22.0
REB - 7.5
AST - 3.5
STL - 2.7
BLK - 1.0
TOV - 3.6

EFG% - 48.0%
FT% 72.8%
FTA - 4.4
3FG% - 23.7%
3FGA - 0.9 / 3.8

Player B (per36)

PTS - 20.3
REB - 7.4
AST - 1.8
STL - 0.9
BLK - 1.3
TOV - 2.7

EFG% - 50.3%
FT% 83.1%
FTA - 2.7
3FG% - 31.1%
3FGA - 2.3 / 7.3

Player C (per36)

PTS - 16.4
REB - 7.7
AST - 2.2
STL - 1.1
BLK - 2.2
TOV - 2.4

EFG% - 49.0%
FT% 72.8%
FTA - 24
3FG% - 26.1%
3FGA - 1.0 / 3.9
 
KqWIN said:
BTW, a lot of people say Holland was "efficient" and cite his TS. Just remember that TS% is bunk and inflated for all G-League stats. Do not use it. I don't think we should look too much into the G-League stats anyways because they were completely over matched. But just for fun, here are some G-League players last season:

Player A (per36)

PTS - 22.0
REB - 7.5
AST - 3.5
STL - 2.7
BLK - 1.0
TOV - 3.6

EFG% - 48.0%
FT% 72.8%
FTA - 4.4
3FG% - 23.7%
3FGA - 0.9 / 3.8

Player B (per36)

PTS - 20.3
REB - 7.4
AST - 1.8
STL - 0.9
BLK - 1.3
TOV - 2.7

EFG% - 50.3%
FT% 83.1%
FTA - 2.7
3FG% - 31.1%
3FGA - 2.3 / 7.3

Player C (per36)

PTS - 16.4
REB - 7.7
AST - 2.2
STL - 1.1
BLK - 2.2
TOV - 2.4

EFG% - 49.0%
FT% 72.8%
FTA - 24
3FG% - 26.1%
3FGA - 1.0 / 3.9
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TS% is the best stat we have to measure scoring efficiency. and it isn't just the best, it is excellent.
 
seattlejazzfan said:
TS% is the best stat we have to measure scoring efficiency. and it isn't just the best, it is excellent.
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The calculation is wrong for the G-League. They have different FT rules and it messes with the formula. Nothing wrong with TS% itself, the problem is that it is wrong for the G-League.
 
KqWIN said:
The calculation is wrong for the G-League. They have different FT rules and it messes with the formula. Nothing wrong with TS% itself, the problem is that it is wrong for the G-League.
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kay yes, that makes sense. still, careful using per 36 for guys who didn't play at least a somewhat similar number of minutes - no idea if that is the case here or not.
 
seattlejazzfan said:
not sure what you're trying to prove, but laughable that you are using per 36 (which can be completely skewed if guy's minutes were low) and you are using eFG% - a stat that ignores a player's ability to get to the FT line and make FTs.
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I am using eFG% because TS% is calculated incorrectly. I added FTA's and FT% so you can also add that to your efficiency calculation. Obviously the guy who shoots more FT's is going to have a higher overall efficiency gain from that. These players all played big minutes: 31.9, 35.4, 32.0. Not sure why you're so aggressive in trying to prove why I'm misleading.
 
KqWIN said:
I am using eFG% because TS% is calculated incorrectly. I added FTA's and FT% so you can also add that to your efficiency calculation. Obviously the guy who shoots more FT's is going to have a higher overall efficiency gain from that. These players all played big minutes: 31.9, 35.4, 32.0.
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fair enough - who are the players?
 
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