2024 NBA Draft Mega Thread

[KqWIN]

Nothing will shock me tbh. I think sometimes when you like guys a lot you may be more quiet about them.

I don't actually think Holland has been mentioned with anyone tbh so maybe it's intentional. There's probably a reason why some guys have all the teams listed out that are interested and some are radio silent.

All we've been hearing about Holland is, "man this guy sucks in workouts". If you really believe in smokescreens this would be the way to do it.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I don't actually think Holland has been mentioned with anyone tbh so maybe it's intentional. There's probably a reason why some guys have all the teams listed out that are interested and some are radio silent.

All we've been hearing about Holland is, "man this guy sucks in workouts". If you really believe in smokescreens this would be the way to do it.

Pat Riley out here doing the nastiest work.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Zanick kind of glazed Edey in the presser

 

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I don't actually think Holland has been mentioned with anyone tbh so maybe it's intentional. There's probably a reason why some guys have all the teams listed out that are interested and some are radio silent.

All we've been hearing about Holland is, "man this guy sucks in workouts". If you really believe in smokescreens this would be the way to do it.

Last year we thought GG Jackson is bombing workouts ... being in bad shape, leaving them early to the locker room and when staff tried to go in see if he was good ... catching him smoking weed in the locker room. So ... yeah... I don't know

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I don't actually think Holland has been mentioned with anyone tbh so maybe it's intentional. There's probably a reason why some guys have all the teams listed out that are interested and some are radio silent.

All we've been hearing about Holland is, "man this guy sucks in workouts". If you really believe in smokescreens this would be the way to do it.

Ron has worked out for a ton of teams with a wide range which is probably why you don't see him linked to specific teams.

 

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Zanick kind of glazed Edey in the presser

Ainge did too... in one of his pressers. I really think he's a legit option at 10.

 

[KqWIN]

Last year we thought GG Jackson is bombing workouts ... being in bad shape, leaving them early to the locker room and when staff tried to go in see if he was good ... catching him smoking weed in the locker room. So ... yeah... I don't know

I mean, he was definitely bombing workouts but that worked out alright. GG kind of defies logic because he gets better the higher the level of competition. I'll accept that GG has proven me wrong, but it still is kinda crazy to me how that has all worked out.

Holland was arguably a better player than GG in the GLeague last year btw. GLeague is a hell hole though and I don't think it translates to NBA.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Zanick kind of glazed Edey in the presser

He did... just listened. He did it in a way that I am not sure if that is our target at 10... but if we got him I think its because we traded into the 13-17 range and got him.

 

[KqWIN]

Edey propaganda is getting to me. I think I might move him ahead of Dillingham in terms of "potentially elite offensive players with defensive question marks". Obviously there are a lot more shot creator types that are star offensive players than bigs...but Edey has some hope on defense at least.

Think both will probably be 20-25 minute players though.

 

[SojoDave]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oAXm7KBkKc&ab_channel=UtahJazz


Here's the full JZ interview

Maybe JZ was sandbagging his draft preparedness, but he made it sound like the average Jazzfanzz poster knows more about the draft than him

 

[GG Jazz Cabbage]

Imagine the thing you missed was his age. @KqWIN He should have been in high school still yet was the focus of the opposing SEC teams he was playing against, and his team's focus the last half of the season. Once you took that into account I don't know how you weren't impressed because he's a sound player ahead of his years. Fundamentally sound player. He was obvious to me

Another note, they ate him up for going to a smaller school over the larger programs, wasn't a red flag to me.

 

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Edey propaganda is getting to me. I think I might move him ahead of Dillingham in terms of "potentially elite offensive players with defensive question marks". Obviously there are a lot more shot creator types that are star offensive players than bigs...but Edey has some hope on defense at least.

Think both will probably be 20-25 minute players though.

I think Edey has defensive question marks. Dillingham has defensive liability certainties...

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Edey propaganda is getting to me. I think I might move him ahead of Dillingham in terms of "potentially elite offensive players with defensive question marks". Obviously there are a lot more shot creator types that are star offensive players than bigs...but Edey has some hope on defense at least.

Think both will probably be 20-25 minute players though.

I think he was solid but not spectacular in college... but he's too big not to have some sort of defensive utility imo... and he did what he did without picking up fouls.

I like guys that the harder you look at them the more you "see it". I think Zach is that type of guy.

 

[KqWIN]

I think Edey has defensive question marks. Dillingham has defensive liability certainties...

That's fair....I do think that people kind of dismiss the fact that Edey wasn't even the greatest rim protector. It's just that he has more obvious defensive question marks. I don't expect either to be a good defender and while that seems to be certainty for Rob, it's much more crushing to have a poor defensive C than guard.

 

[KqWIN]

I think he was solid but not spectacular in college... but he's too big not to have some sort of defensive utility imo... and he did what he did without picking up fouls.

I like guys that the harder you look at them the more you "see it". I think Zach is that type of guy.

Most bigs that are good were way more than solid at the college level....and while I'm not saying "he's just tall" being tall is certainly more impactful at the college level than the NBA.

I think his PnR finishing + offensive rebounding will be really freaking though. Defensively, his utility will probably come from securing the rebounds which is something people don't consider defense but should.

 

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Tony Jones had our preferences pretty spot on last year. What is he saying this year? Tony? @Tony Jones

He gives his opinions here.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0X8zTyO0go


He seems to like Cody Williams, Carter, and Holland for the Jazz, but he says a lot more than that brief summary.

 

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That's fair....I do think that people kind of dismiss the fact that Edey wasn't even the greatest rim protector. It's just that he has more obvious defensive question marks. I don't expect either to be a good defender and while that seems to be certainty for Rob, it's much more crushing to have a poor defensive C than guard.

Yeah, being defensive liability as a center is much harder to make work, but I do think with Dillingham it's all but certain he will be bad defender... and not just bad... truly horrible is my expectation, while I think there is a chance Edey will be able to provide enough defensive value to make him a starting center with very high offensive potential.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Most bigs that are good were way more than solid at the college level....and while I'm not saying "he's just tall" being tall is certainly more impactful at the college level than the NBA.

I think his PnR finishing + offensive rebounding will be really freaking though. Defensively, his utility will probably come from securing the rebounds which is something people don't consider defense but should.

The screening combined with the finishing could be fairly devastating. The switch everything likely doesn't work with him so you'll have to fight through it and he's a big physical mfer with a big resting catch radius (I just invented this).

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Locked on Jazz today giving Cody Williams a hot stone massage.

Also, when Justin Zanik talks about not being able to teach size, that could apply to Williams and Salaun as well as Edey.

 

[KqWIN]

Yeah, being defensive liability as a center is much harder to make work, but I do think with Dillingham it's all but certain he will be bad defender... and not just bad... truly horrible is my expectation, while I think there is a chance Edey will be able to provide enough defensive value to make him a starting center with very high offensive potential.

I could go either way. I really like Edey’s rebounding+finishing…but I am somewhat dubious about his post game and passing. There are only a few bigs in the NBA who are good enough to warrant getting post ups in the first place, and all of them have really good guard skills. Edey started late, so maybe he has the potential to improve a lot more, but I don’t love how slow his reads are and I just can’t imagine him putting the ball on the floor at his height.

Dillingham has a more natural path to being an elite offensive player imo. But I would agree he could be tragically bad.

I would also say that there’s probably more room for offense only guards than offense only bigs. Someone like Monk has more value than someone like John Collins, for example.