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Kyle's career was suffering by his family going to media to publicize the story, not by his girlfriend.

The media even acknowledged this and reported that Kyle would have gone higher on the board if it wasn't for his family stabbing on the kid's back with the story.

All we heard is this very one sided story coming from his so-called “family”. Have we heard anything from his coach? From his teammates? Staff at Duke? From the kid himself?

Kyle's had two years of good college basketball in one of the best programs in the nation while dating this woman. His coach and teammates loved him and had never once raised any concerns over his character, academics, professionalism, etc. Even if he was “groomed” so what? It's not like his life ever gone dark because of it.

I know people from the outside world has mixed views on Mormon but I thought as Utah fans we should’ve known better.

Yeah, you have the timeline all wrong. He had already fell in the draft, the only reason why the family commented was because Givony was talking about it. The damage to his career had already been done. Why you decided to make up your own timeline? I’ve got no idea.

“So what” when it comes to grooming. Yikes…
 
Yeah, you have the timeline all wrong. He had already fell in the draft, the only reason why the family commented was because Givony was talking about it. The damage to his career had already been done. Why you decided to make up your own timeline? I’ve got no idea.

“So what” when it comes to grooming. Yikes…
What did Givony say about it? Iirc all he said was Flip fell because he had an older GF.
 
This grooming talk is comical. If this is what grooming is then damn I wish it would have happened to me when I was in high school.
I mean, it is wrong, but he's an adult now who has all the power in the world to make his own life choices.

It's not the same as a rich older man seducing a late teens HS girl. It's a double standard, but it's one that makes sense. There isn't a power dynamic imbalance here.
 
As a guy from Eastern Europe who ended up in SLC 15 years ago, the Jazz have always been a safe place from having to hear both sides talk about Mormonism, hopefully this blows over soon haha
 
Flip definitely went to the best team for his supposed situation. The rest of the media landscape will forget and some people in Utah will be happy he's a Mormon and the others won't care.
 
What did Givony say about it? Iirc all he said was Flip fell because he had an older GF.

He said Flip fell because he was nervous/odd in interviews and FO’s thought there was something weird about his GF. Someone posted the soundbite on twitter, his brother + mom replied to this tweet and said this bitch is crazy and it’s her fault he fell. This idea that it was a hit piece against Kyle is off base.

IMO, it probably came off to NBA teams as if he had a crazy parent/controlling person in his life. We don’t know all the details, so I’m not going to jump to conclusions (although I do think 26 dating a HS kid is straight up weird on its own and it appears that he already knew her much earlier than that). I hope for Kyle’s sake that he’s all good and she’s not this crazy person controlling his life to his detriment.

Oddly enough, he went to one location in the NBA where this situation is accepted. Even if the family is telling 100% truth, it seems as though some here are OK with the grooming and glad it happened if it did. Welcome to Utah Kyle.
 
He said Flip fell because he was nervous/odd in interviews and FO’s thought there was something weird about his GF. Someone posted the soundbite on twitter, his brother + mom replied to this tweet and said this bitch is crazy and it’s her fault he fell. This idea that it was a hit piece against Kyle is off base.

IMO, it probably came off to NBA teams as if he had a crazy parent/controlling person in his life. We don’t know all the details, so I’m not going to jump to conclusions (although I do think 26 dating a HS kid is straight up weird on its own). I hope for Kyle’s sake that he’s all good and she’s not this crazy person controlling his life to his detriment.

Oddly enough, he went to one location in the NBA where this situation is accepted. Even if the family is telling 100% truth, it seems as though some here are OK with the grooming and glad it happened if it did. Welcome to Utah Kyle.
Keep digging in, you just keep sounding worse and worse.
 
Ok….Im not on the side saying “so what” to grooming. I’m happy about that.
That is great but not what I’m referencing. You are on the side of family members dishing out one sided personal details on Twitter to randoms about a family member on the biggest day of his life though.
 
He said Flip fell because he was nervous/odd in interviews and FO’s thought there was something weird about his GF. Someone posted the soundbite on twitter, his brother + mom replied to this tweet and said this bitch is crazy and it’s her fault he fell. This idea that it was a hit piece against Kyle is off base.

IMO, it probably came off to NBA teams as if he had a crazy parent/controlling person in his life. We don’t know all the details, so I’m not going to jump to conclusions (although I do think 26 dating a HS kid is straight up weird on its own and it appears that he already knew her much earlier than that). I hope for Kyle’s sake that he’s all good and she’s not this crazy person controlling his life to his detriment.

Oddly enough, he went to one location in the NBA where this situation is accepted. Even if the family is telling 100% truth, it seems as though some here are OK with the grooming and glad it happened if it did. Welcome to Utah Kyle.
So Givony said basically nothing and it would have never been a story unless his family wasn't insane for tweeting?
 
That is great but not what I’m referencing. You are on the side of family members dishing out one sided personal details on Twitter to randoms about a family member on the biggest day of his life though.

If what they say is true, they are not acting unreasonable. You keep acting like this is a hit piece against Kyle, they are clearly upset about this woman.

Nowhere outside of this forum do you find people jumping out to defend the woman or attack his family. If you think I care about the moral high ground from people on this forum, you are sorely mistaken.
 
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