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Saint: I get it, Mitchell is an exciting rookie
yamers: Mitchel with 7 shots
yamers: rubio with 15
Jazz4ever: If we had Gobert, Capella probably gets 10 points instead of 24
yamers: 12*
Saint: that doesnt mean you abandon any kind of structure or expectations to how players should execute to stay on the court
8: Housont has James harden and chris paul making plays for eric gordon. Utah's got Udoh and Sefalosha. Houston will win a lot before losing to GSW
MDAV28: It also doesn't mean you don't adjust to what it happening on the court
Saint: if Mitchell was out there not giving full effort on D, or something along those lines, he deserves to get benched
MDAV28: Jazz were getting absolutely gashed and no adjustment
Saint: you cant let a rookie do w/e he wants all the time, it's habit forming
Saint: adjustment?
Saint: The jazz adjusted plenty the entrie game
Ellipse: LOL if Quin was benching players for missing assignments, then he should have benched the whole team.
Saint: then they got hit by Houston just being more talented
Eenie-Meenie: When was Mitchell not giving full effort on D -- I didn't see it. He had 4 steals, remember.
MDAV28: Haha yeah plenty of missed assignments
MT: it wasn't an effort thing
Saint: I dont know exacctly what Mitchell did wrong eenie, but I'm sure Quin had good reason
Saint: he is one of the top coaches in the NBA, and known for his player development
str8line: We were down 1 pt. with 6 min left in third when DM went to bench after his fourth foul.
MDAV28: Plus, if you want "consistent coaching" then don't let him have a leash other games
Saint: stfu mdav
Saint: why are you so dumb on this?
str8line: Then he came back for what, 1 min?
Saint: we arent teh coaches
Saint: we dont know what MItchell did wrong
Saint: but I trust Quin's judgement for setting the expectation level
MDAV28: I think Mitchell had a nagging thing bothering him
yamers: -32 rubio and johnson
MDAV28: If he didn't I think that's a bad look
Saint: and if he did not reach that, then Quin has enough respect from me, given his acumen, to bench a player
Eenie-Meenie: Mitchell also had 4 fouls. Yeah, a brain fart. If you're going to bench, let him do it by playing and fouling out. Give yourself a chance to win.
str8line: I hope we find out why he was benched.
Saint: its not a bad look
Eenie-Meenie: With Rubio out there, there was no chance.
MDAV28: It's pretty simple. If you're going to put the load on your rookie then put the load on your rookie
Saint: a coach coaching and is not a bad look
yamers: -32 +/- for rubio
-32 +/- for JOHNSON
yamers: -32 +/- for rubio
-32 +/- for JOHNSON


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MDAV28: Don't be inconsistent and pull on the leash at times and then let him run free others
Saint: Eenie or MdAV, do you coach the Utah Jazz?
MT: +/- is silly to use this game
yamers: -32 +/- for rubio
-32 +/- for JOHNSON-32 +/- for rubio
-32 +/- for JOHNSON-32 +/- for rubio
-32 +/- for JOHNSON-32 +/- for rubio
-32 +/- for JOHNSON-3
str8line: Quin has blown it with Exum IMO.
yamers: -32 +/- for rubio
-32 +/- for JOHNSON-32 +/- for rubio
-32 +/- for JOHNSON-32 +/- for rubio
-32 +/- for JOHNSON-32 +/- for rubio
-32 +/- for JOHNSON-3
str8line: Messed with X's brain.
MT: Whoever was on the court in the 4th was gonna end up with an awful +/- regardless
Eenie-Meenie: No reason you can't second guess the coach, and he did f up this 4th quarter, that is for certain
yamers: THATS ABSOLUTELY ****ING WRETCHED
yamers: and u keep letting him play
Ellipse: Quin decided to throw away our best chance of a win, just to teach Mitchell a lesson.
MT: Rockets missed their open 3s the first 3 quarters and made them all in the 4th
Saint: there is no second guesssing
str8line: Don't ****ing mess with Donovan;s brain.
latin: using +/- is dumb
Saint: he didnt do it to win the game
Saint: he obviosuly did it for long-term reasons
yamers: what reason
MDAV28: Hahahahaa
yamers: what did mitchell do wrong
Saint: if you trust Quin's resume of player development
yamers: he had only 7 shots
latin: being on the 4q during the rockets run would just skew that stat
Saint: then you have to trust his moves when it comes to player develpment
Eenie-Meenie: Listen, I've learned in life that no one has all the answer and is omniscient. No matter how much you think they might know.
yamers: WHAT DID MITCHEL DO WRONG
yamers: PLZ POINT OUT THE ERROR
MDAV28: I'm actually not as much questioning quin as I am questioning your logic of the situation
Saint: just cuz we have a love affair w/ Donovan doesnt mean he should be allowed to develop bad habits
MDAV28: Your explanations make no sense
str8line: He was 3-6 FG when he went out half way through third.
Saint: yes they do
MDAV28: Develop "bad habits". K then pull him every time?
MDAV28: He doesn't
Eenie-Meenie: Tell us what was the bad habit he was developing. He didn't take enough shots, that is one of them
MT: this is literally
MT: the first time he's been pulled
Saint: my explanation is: Quin is a great player development coach and if he saw something out of Donovan that did not reach his expectation level...
str8line: Then back in and missed one **** and got yanked. Ridiculous unless injured or something.


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Saint: then Quin has every right to bench him
str8line: Maybe he didn't take enough shots LOL. Seriously.
MDAV28: I trust Quin and BEFORE I KNOW WHAT THE REASON IS I think it's a bad look. If the reason what you say, then that's stupid
Eenie-Meenie: How about all the **** shots Rubio takes. He would get benched every night.
Saint: its not a bad look
yamers: ^^^
yamers: thank you
Saint: thats the dumbest **** i have ever heard
MT: you guys are being dumb
MDAV28: Quin should be more consistent if the reason is "future" haha
Saint: A coach coaching
Saint: isnt a bad look
Saint: and **** off if you think otherwise
str8line: DM doesn't need coaching.
str8line: Just sit back and watch.
Eenie-Meenie: The Jazz were playing so well, but Quin made some bad substitutions that f'd up the chemistry, that's what happened.
str8line: You can't defend playing Rubio over DM.
MDAV28: Killer instinct is something that can't be coached and is something Don has. Let your standout prospect play and learn in huge moments like this
str8line: Yeah, he benched DM and everyone freaked out and got tight.
Saint: the bench is a coaching tool
str8line: I blame the blow.
MDAV28: Even if the outcome is the same, which is probably would have been, that has always driven guys like Don in the past to learn and be better
Eenie-Meenie: Plus he should've called some timeout after Ariza made that 3. The game was still within reach and he could've put Mitchell back in.
Saint: Quin knows his player
Saint: he know how he will respond
Eenie-Meenie: That is the stupidest thing I've ever heard
str8line: Son, you don't play games with Donovan.
Saint: yes, coaching is stupid
MT: You guys must think Pop is a bad coach too
latin: why is this site going to flames for DM benching
Eenie-Meenie: Well, he messed up the 4th qtr, that's for sure
Jazz4ever: Fangirls
str8line: Donovan was not having a bad game by any stretch.
MDAV28: I love that somebody brought up Pop
str8line: 4 steals in 21 min?
latin: he wans't playing his best (not great, not bad either) and the team was rolling
Eenie-Meenie: It was not just the benching. It was the way the Jazz played at the end of the game
yamers: rubio over mitchel
yamers: is enraging
str8line: 3-6 FG?


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yamers: you need buckets? LETS LEAVE IN RUBIO
yamers: HURP A ****IN DERP
latin: then the rockets caught fire (well, gordon), and it was game over
Saint: The jazz played bad most of hte game
Saint: it wasnt just hte 4th
Ellipse: Cy, if you can actually tell us what Mitchell did wrong, then I would be willing to accept your argument.
yamers: harden can't defend agarbage can!
MDAV28: Pop does it consistently, this is Quin's seemingly first time pulling the leash
yamers: LETS ****IN KEEP RUBIO IN
str8line: Again maybe he was benched for not being selfish enough.
Saint: HOod carried the team while everyone else was missing wide open shots
Saint: then Houston's talent took over
Eenie-Meenie: But Quin didn't adjust either
str8line: Jazz didn't play bad most of game at all.
Saint: What the hell could he have done?
Eenie-Meenie: Why didn't he put Burks back in.
str8line: DM was 3-6.
Saint: pls tell me the magical adjustment to stop harden from driving and to stop the refs from calling cheap fouls?
str8line: 50%.
latin: well, it's not only about getting buckets but running a team. maybe quin didn't want to give DM the keys on this particular game.
Saint: Becuase burks was making terrible decisions in transition
str8line: Made great passed that weren't capitalized on.
Eenie-Meenie: In my opinion, Rubio sucks and I hope they trade him because it gets on my nerves watching him play.
Ellipse: The only reason I can see for benching Mitchell is if he said something to Quin.
latin: i dont think it would make a difference to be honest. the rockets were unstopabble
Saint: lmfao
str8line: That's possible.
str8line: Yeah, Rockets were going to win anyways, that's probably true.
Saint: bottom line: Quin knows his players and he knows player development
str8line: But we were ahead by 5 later in the game.
Zombie: We better push OKC **** in tomorrow night
Eenie-Meenie: The Rockets probably would've won the way Gordon got hot, but the Jazz just layed down and died at the end
str8line: Has Quin developed Donovan?
str8line: I would say DM has developed DM.
Jazz4ever: My guess is DM let CP drive baseline which led to a a collapse and open 3 make.
Ellipse: Are the post-game interviews starting late?
str8line: Quin is trying to figure out what to say.
yamers: bottom line: -32 +/- for rubio
-32 +/- for JOHNSON
yamers: rubio is an absolute garbage player
yamers: we might be able to find somebody better in the dleague


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MT: stop using +/-
latin: mmm, there were a couple of bad decisions: the fastbreak pass to udoh and a bad 3 point attempt when he had an opportunity to drive
MT: plz
Saint: who you talking to MT?
MT: yamers
MDAV28: You have a top 15 4th quarter scorer, top 5 in december in a two possession game against the best playing team in the NBA and you bench him
MT: for tonight's game
Saint: lmao
Saint: got ot mute yamers
MT: we were getting blown the f out in the 4th no matter who was in
latin: yamers: -180 in the last 3 hrs
Saint: exactly MD
Saint: that tells you Mitchell must have really done something Quin did not appreaciate
Eenie-Meenie: The fast break pass to Udoh was because Rubio passed him the ball too late and he was under the basket and had no where to go but pass it to Udoh
Saint: when you let a player do w/e he wants, it's habit forming
MDAV28: That tells me Mitch must have something nagging
Saint: maybe
str8line: Quin sadi we had guys going for offensive REB that shouldn't have been.
Saint: but if he did, then why wasnt he getting medical attention?
str8line: That must be it.
MDAV28: Well it could be something just slowing him down
Eenie-Meenie: We're all just speculating. Whatever it was, benching Mitchell unless it was an injury was a bad move as the end result has shown.
str8line: Did DM go for any off REB?
latin: @eenie, maybe. it was a bad pass to udoh too, and udoh doesn't have great hands either
yamers: how many bad passes had rubio had?
yamers: rubio down the streth drove in and tossed it at ariza
str8line: Rubio only 1 TO
MDAV28: Nobody asked about Mitch to Quin
yamers: im talking season
Eenie-Meenie: It was hard to tell if it was a bad pass or Udoh's bad hands. In any case, he was trapped under the basket
Ellipse: Quin didn't even mention Mitchell.
str8line: Man up reporters!
Eenie-Meenie: And Ricky should've cut more towards the middle to give more space for the pass.
str8line: Reporters afraid of Quin.
Saint: Eenie, the benching wasnt about winning/losing
Saint: its long-term
MDAV28: I just can't agree with that
str8line: Stupid ****. You don't bench your star for nothing.
Ellipse: That wasn't a bad pass to Udoh, it was a perfect hand-off that Udoh fumbled.
MDAV28: It's not stupid to not agree with that


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Saint: you dont have to agree with it, it's fact
MDAV28: Mitch is a grown man.
Saint: Quin Snyder is more grown
jom2003: It's not even about Mitchell. It's about putting Johnson on the court all the way till the end
MDAV28: He isn't some sort of dog needing conditioning
str8line: None of us can figure out why. We all watched the game.
Saint: and I cna show you plenty of examples of super-star rookies developing bad habits becaue their coaches were too scared to coach them
latin: are we over-analizing DM benching in the fourth??
str8line: Hell no. We aren't.
MDAV28: If that's the case, then pull the leash more Quin
Eenie-Meenie: What is this bad habit you keep harping on ... if you don't know, then there's no reason to use that as the reason.
str8line: He was benched with 6 min left in third.
Saint: have you ever heard of Russell Westbrook, the super athletic PG who doesnt try on defense and never moves off-ball?
MDAV28: If Quin is going to do that, then do that more
Eenie-Meenie: He had 4 fouls
yamers: 1 DeMarcus Cousins New Orleans Pelicans C 5.23
2 Russell Westbrook Oklahoma City Thunder PG 4.76
3 James Harden Houston Rockets SG 4.29
4 LeBron James
Eenie-Meenie: that's why he was benched
Saint: Quin is doing it as he sees fit
str8line: Then let back in after sitting forever...then yanked.
Ellipse: The game was winnable, until our star was benched.
Saint: are you a top heralded player development coach MDAV?
MDAV28: There's been plenty of stretches in which Mitch has taken bad shots, but he has learned from it. He has already come so far from the start of the
MDAV28: Season
yamers: 3.10
t/o per game for rubio
Saint: I want to know
MT: that's a great point actually
Saint: who said it was about taking bad shots?
MT: Westbrook could be so much better than he is
MDAV28: Far from it
MT: if his coaches bothered to teach him some discipline when he was developing
Eenie-Meenie: No one knows. You'll have to ask Quin
Saint: it could have been him not running a play, not communicating on D, being lazy on D, etc
Saint: it could have been a really small thing that just set Quin off
str8line: He was 3-6 when he got benched!
Saint: its his job to coach these things into him
Saint: players do need conditioning, it's what coaches exist
MDAV28: I get that, but he's a grown man
yamers: its his job to develope the corpse of joe johnson
yamers: develope his .105% from 3
Saint: grown man aint got **** to do with it


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MDAV28: Yes it does
Eenie-Meenie: Why didn't reporters ask the question. Tweet to Tony Jones. Maybe he will know.
Saint: you sound damn foolsih repeating that ****
str8line: You don't play games with a player like Donovan.
str8line: Dod Sloan ever bench Stockton?
MDAV28: You don't need to punish and hurt chances at a game
Saint: if NBA players are all grown men, then why do they need practice? They shoudl just be told once how to play defense and then it's fine, right?
Ellipse: Mitchell benching: it wasn't bad shots, bad defense, bad passing ... the only excuse Quin used was going after offensive rebounds??????
Saint: That's a huge thing Ellipse
MDAV28: Quin said that?
Saint: Quin wants his guards to get back on defense
Saint: and that is a bad habit
Saint: you want to coach out of your players
latin: is that a way of saying effort?
MDAV28: You have to be kidding me. That's what Quin said? Can you pull the quote?
latin: lack of
MDAV28: Too much effort right?
str8line: Joe Johnson will never be a corpse. He's Jesus.
Saint: thats not effort, its being dumb if your coaches gameplan is to get back on defense
Saint: and that's 100% what I said
Saint: Quin saw him going agaisnt the gameplan
Saint: and pulled him
Saint: 10000000% in the right for doing that
str8line: Quin said "you had guys going after offensive REB that shouldn't have been"
Saint: if you disagree otherwise, then Quin shouldnt even bother making a gameplan and just let Donovan do w/e he wants
MDAV28: Ok I'll rewatch and point out 100 things of players going "against the gameplay"
MDAV28: There's such a thing as flow of the game as well
MDAV28: I'm sure it Kerr's gameplan to have Steph pull up from 35 feet with 20 seconds in the shot clock
str8line: You don't bench your stud. Unless it's egregious.
Saint: yes, it probably is
MDAV28: Hahahaha
MDAV28: Ok I'm out
Saint: you are really being stupid abou this
Saint: a gameplan doesnt detail every exact shot a team should take
latin: cy: i meant if Quin was referring to "effort", wan't quoting you. but thanks for clarifying. i don't mind the benching if he...
MDAV28: Exactly
Saint: Quin obviously allows a lot of freedom
Saint: and grey area
latin: was trying to teach DM something. some people is overracting
str8line: We probably decided to tank today.


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Saint: yeah, some people are mad dumb about this
MT: Sloan
MT: benched Deron Williams an insane amount his rookie year
MDAV28: But will pull on that leash inconsistently. If he's so worried about habits then do it more often
MT: he literally started Milt Palacio over him
str8line: Yeah and he said he was too hard on him.
Saint: What's inconsistent?
Saint: you are just making **** up
MT: yet Quin pulls Mitchell once in 30+ games for a teaching moment
MDAV28: This isn't a regular rookie. I hope I'm not the only one who sees this
Eenie-Meenie: Cy, you're the one who is being stupid because you think Quin is perfect.
Saint: I'm sure Quin/Donovan communicate
MT: do you all think Sloan sucks then?
str8line: DM is so much better than Deron was his first 25 games
Saint: I dont think uin is perfect, I just think he is one of the best player develpment coahces in the nba so i trust his judgement
Saint: he also communicates great w/ players from every report
MDAV28: Hell I think it's better if Sloan did it more often if the case was to "stop bad habits"
MDAV28: Doing it once doesn't stop a habit
Saint: so I doubt he just up and benched Mitchell
Saint: MDAV, player development expert
MDAV28: I have no question in my mind Quin is great and great at player development. I can question decisions
Eenie-Meenie: Yes, but he also can make a mistake ... you think but you don't know. But we do know Quin is temperamental
MT: Deron was pretty damn good his rookie year tbh
Saint: also thinks grown men know everything about basketball and dont need to be coached
MDAV28: I'm not the one acting like an expert
Eenie-Meenie: And being temperamental myself, I know it can cause me to make mistakes.
str8line: Nothing like DM his first two months.
MDAV28: I'm questioning a decision
str8line: Quin **** all over Dante.
Saint: A coach told his players to get back on defense and stop going after bad rebounds
Saint: a player didnt do that
Saint: he got benched
Eenie-Meenie: How do you know that's Mitchell
Saint: because someone here said Quin said that
str8line: It was painful the trauma he put Dante through.
str8line: Quin didn't specify Donovan
str8line: But it must have been.
Eenie-Meenie: If a player goes for an offensive rebound one time when he wasn't supposed to, you don't bench him in a game when you need him. That is stupid
str8line: We gave up a chance of winning.
Saint: How do you know it was one time?


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Eenie-Meenie: Someone here said Quin mentioned guards but not by name
Saint: again, QUin communicates very well with his players and is lauded for his development skills
Saint: he knows his players
str8line: Would have been tough to pull off but we NEED Donovan to have a chance.
jom2003: Yeah, but unfortunately DWill didn't learn his lessons after all...
latin: maybe it's an accumulation of bad decisions: lazy pass, bad 3 pointer, not getting back of defense, etc
str8line: We miss playoffs by one game we might look back on this.
Eenie-Meenie: Well, you bench him but then put him back in, if you want to win the game
MDAV28: I think Don had a problem with his ankle
MDAV28: Rewatching the game now
Saint: Dwill learned plenty of lesssons
str8line: DM is not D-Will.
Saint: he was the best PG before his injuries
MDAV28: Makes much more sense than whatever the hell reasons are being thrown out here
str8line: DM is way smarter and will never have the arrogance of D-Will
latin: maybe quin was willing to sacrifice one game if it meant correcting something in the future face of the franchise
Saint: not really
latin: i'm sure tomorrow DM will be fired up
latin: and rolling
Eenie-Meenie: The game is Wednesday, isn't it?
latin: really?
str8line: DM would never chuck a basketball at his rookie.
latin: yup, on wed
Eenie-Meenie: Deron was a dick -- it all came out when he left. The media hated him.
str8line: He was a total dick.
str8line: He made Jerry say **** it.
str8line: Oh I went there.
MT: tbf
Eenie-Meenie: Karma came back to bite him though with all the injuries that followed after he left the Jazz.
MT: I think Jerry was about ready to say **** it at that point in his life regardless
MT: Deron just expedited it
Eenie-Meenie: Jerry was ready to leave, that's true
str8line: Anyways, DM will never be the bitch that D-Will is.
Eenie-Meenie: He was already developing dementia
str8line: Yeah, but he would have retired at the end of the season.
latin: i'm out. i hope DM corrects whatever it was Q was mad about. We can only guess. But it's just one game (Ty Corbin reference here lol)
MDAV28: Watch DM's steal breakaway. Layed it in, had to skip after, and was grimacing on the way back the court
latin: DM will bounce back
str8line: Oh ****. Really?
str8line: Groin?


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Eenie-Meenie: Maybe you're right. Maybe he did tweak his ankle
Eenie-Meenie: Makes more sense
str8line: Hoefully not hamstring.
MDAV28: I thought I remember he tweaked it last game, that's the only reason I said ankle
str8line: Ha ha, would be funny if it was injury.
str8line: All this drama for naught.
Eenie-Meenie: It's the only thing that makes sense to me.
MDAV28: I have no idea if it is or what it is though. Just noticed it. That was early in the game though and he did have some explosive plays after that
MT: well if it is an injury
str8line: True, only thing that makes sense.
MT: i'm sure the Jazz PR will let us know in a few weeks
str8line: Someone make a thread about DM being injured, quick.
Eenie-Meenie: Yeah, but when you get injured you can play through it. I once broke my finger in the first quarter of a game -- men's league
Eenie-Meenie: And taped it up and played one of the best games of my life, but then had to sit out the rest of the season.
yamers: BREAKING NEWS
yamers: RUBIO TRADED FOR A BAG OF DILDOS
str8line: Have you seen the price of dildo's lately?!
str8line: We got a great deal.
Eenie-Meenie: I wish they work out something with Sac for George Hill and Rubio.
MDAV28: I'd do it if Sac took Burks
Eenie-Meenie: What a disaster. And to think the Jazz got him for Hayward
Eenie-Meenie: Burks and Rubio?
Eenie-Meenie: Then the Jazz should get a draft pick too
yamers: rubio was haywards idea?
MDAV28: Ya. Just salary wise. I wouldn't want to take Hill's contract without giving up Burks
yamers:
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MDAV28: No rubio wasn't Hayward's idea
MDAV28: They just ran it by him
Eenie-Meenie: I never paid much attention to Rubio before, but one thing was that he never used to shoot this much. Quin giving him the green light was not good
yamers: really don't like rubio's game
yamers: notice when rubio is in mitchel is always posted up in the corner
Eenie-Meenie: A waste of Mitchell putting him in the corner. They should put Hood in the corner and kick to him.
Eenie-Meenie: The problem to me though is Rubio. Get rid of the guy. He's not a good fit for this team. It's so blatantly obvious.
Eenie-Meenie: I'm out
yamers: i don't like rubio's game at all
yamers: watching him brick open shots rly isn't fun


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Eenie-Meenie: If a player goes for an offensive rebound one time when he wasn't supposed to, you don't bench him in a game when you need him. That is stupid

But it wasn't the first time ... remember that put-back jam that made the NBA's Top 10 Dunks of the night a week or so ago (Actually, it was October 28 against the Lakers)? Yeah, that **** pisses the hell out of Quin. Time to teach the kid a lesson!
 
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Put me in the camp that thinks DM should have played more.

Not his best night... it likely motivates him, but he’s one of three players that can create for himself and likely draws one of the better defenders. He’s not above reproach but let’s not act like the rest of our guys killed it tonight.
 
I think it’s safe to say Houston is good.

That GS/Houston WCF is the championship. And tbh, if Houston gets hot like that, there’s no team in the league that can stop them. Harden and CP3 are the two best passers in the league and they’re surrounded by great shooters and a Gobert like center to anchor their defense.
 
I think it’s safe to say Houston is good.

That GS/Houston WCF is the championship. And tbh, if Houston gets hot like that, there’s no team in the league that can stop them. Harden and CP3 are the two best passers in the league and they’re surrounded by great shooters and a Gobert like center to anchor their defense.
I hate to admit it, but Houston has built a great team around Harden. They’re going to be a handful for the next few years (unless CP bolts). GSW are still the mountain to overcome, and I wouldn’t count out LeBron and Co., in the playoffs. Especially if IT comes back healthy for them. He has half a season to earn that Max contract. Not buying on the Spurs or Celtics, but I suppose either team could put it together in the playoffs and make a run at it.
 
I hate to admit it, but Houston has built a great team around Harden. They’re going to be a handful for the next few years (unless CP bolts). GSW are still the mountain to overcome, and I wouldn’t count out LeBron and Co., in the playoffs. Especially if IT comes back healthy for them. He has half a season to earn that Max contract. Not buying on the Spurs or Celtics, but I suppose either team could put it together in the playoffs and make a run at it.

Something tells me injuries are going to wildly affect the playoff race. Durant or curry goes down and rockets have a clear path to the finals.
 
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