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5 year old kills 2 year old sister... with a birthday present.

AKMVP said:
The strict gun law which does not allow anybody to purchase guns for no reason. Numerous countries have them and you do not see reports about kids killing kids or even adults.
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two dutch teenagers killed a girl for a phone.
they where going to rape her but it was her period
they where 12 and 13 year old if i did not forgot
they did it whit knife(s)

lets bann celphones and knifes
 
Nate505 said:
So what. What's so bad about lax gun laws. Prohibition in general is doomed to failure.
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Yet in countries with strict gun laws gun related crime is way way lower then in USA. Not sure why you guys can't accept simple fact - gun control works.
 
PearlWatson said:
Murder isn't a "gun-related" crime?
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Ok, I think we talking here about shooting guns. Murder can be commited by knife, rock, car, poison, golf club, baseball bat, heck even fork or screwdriver.

for example: In 2004, American Ryan Holle was convicted of first-degree murder for lending his car to a friend, who used the car in a burglary during which a murder was committed. Holle was convicted under a legal doctrine known as the felony murder rule.
 
AKMVP said:
Ok, I think we talking here about shooting guns. Murder can be commited by knife, rock, car, poison, golf club, baseball bat, heck even fork or screwdriver.

for example: In 2004, American Ryan Holle was convicted of first-degree murder for lending his car to a friend, who used the car in a burglary during which a murder was committed. Holle was convicted under a legal doctrine known as the felony murder rule.
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AKMVP said:
Ok, I think we talking here about shooting guns. Murder can be commited by knife, rock, car, poison, golf club, baseball bat, heck even fork or screwdriver.

for example: In 2004, American Ryan Holle was convicted of first-degree murder for lending his car to a friend, who used the car in a burglary during which a murder was committed. Holle was convicted under a legal doctrine known as the felony murder rule.
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So murder is only "gun-related" when someone uses a gun? Then obviously if tyrants take away guns "gun-related" crime goes down. lol

But by that definition if tyrants took away cars all "car-related" crime would also go down.
 
Chris-L said:
whats up with malasia ripping of the design of our flag?

dicks.
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Kill the Prime Minister of Malaysia!

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PearlWatson said:
I'm curious about what people he considered "my people."
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Oh the guy was Vietnamese.

34-year-old Ly, who was born in Vietnam, had been released from jail earlier this week for charges of joyriding and possessing another person’s ID. He has an extensive criminal history, sexual battery and lewdness. He has also been convicted for attempted assault against a police officer, theft and drug possession.
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@ AKMVP The guy who subdued him until police got there was a concealed weapon permit holder so had to take training to have that.
 
PearlWatson said:
So murder is only "gun-related" when someone uses a gun? Then obviously if tyrants take away guns "gun-related" crime goes down. lol
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Not sure what is funny here. See Japan example and compare their gun related injuries/murders/robbery rates to USA. I applaud Japan's "tyrants" for doing great job by banning all the hand guns from public and enforcing strict gun control. Obviously, will never happen in USA but something to look at.
 
AKMVP said:
Not sure what is funny here. See Japan example and compare their gun related injuries/murders/robbery rates to USA. I applaud Japan's "tyrants" for doing great job by banning all the hand guns from public and enforcing strict gun control. Obviously, will never happen in USA but something to look at.
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The point that has apparently eluded you is that guns are a tool that is used in murder but murders will find other tools to murder with if they don't get guns. If you compare the statistical data the murder rates in places with better gun laws is not lower. However having guns actually helps prevent violent crime as criminals are less likely to do violent crime knowing that they could potentially be shot at (look at that Harvard paper I linked).

Once again restricting citizens freedoms is not the answer.
 
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