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According to Ford- Milsap/Harris could be traded on draft day

how about Millsap, Okur, & 3rd pick
for
Bogut & 10th pick
?

I don't think we can realistically expect an upgrade over Harris. With this trade, we "get longer" with a real center.. And there will still be guards left that can hit shots at the 10th & 12th picks.. without being as much of a reach as drafting one w/ the 3rd would have been.

Just a thought. Throw everything at the wall and see what sticks, right?
 
footawn said:
how about Millsap, Okur, & 3rd pick
for
Bogut & 10th pick
?

I don't think we can realistically expect an upgrade over Harris. With this trade, we "get longer" with a real center.. And there will still be guards left that can hit shots at the 10th & 12th picks.. without being as much of a reach as drafting one w/ the 3rd would have been.

Just a thought. Throw everything at the wall and see what sticks, right?
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Hell no, I would trade Jefferson and 12 for Bogut but not Millsap and the 3rd pick.
 
NAOS said:
Also, you can put me on the record for saying that this site has drastically under-appreciated the quality of his past season.
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Yep. Thank god the average Jazzfanz poster isn't running the team. They seem only concerned with what their best players aren't (this is especially true of Millsap, Deron and...gasp...AK).
 
why everyone is trying to get rid of millsap? he is the last man to be traded in this team. He has a vry good contract and he can accept the role of coming from the bench unlike Jefferson who has double contract. If we r gonna trade a big man, its Big al not millsap
 
GlassEater said:
Except if you believe his "I'm a starter" comment. Money changes things. Maybe he was Sloan's pet, but doesn't have a good relationship with Ty. He may resent Jefferson being the #1 option the last several weeks of the season. Or maybe he's bitter over the Jazz getting rid of Brewer and then Deron, two of his BFF's. Who knows?

What IS evident is that he's been a much better 6th man and spot starter than a #1 PF. I think he could be dominant again as a backup and still get the same number of minutes. He'd also be a bigger part of the offense and go up against backups for at least half his minutes. That seems like a win-win to me. Let Favors do thebanging against the starters and Millsap can put up double-doubles against the backups.
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Why would Milsap have to settle for the 6th man role? Did you see him lead us in Miami?
 
GVC said:
Yep. Thank god the average Jazzfanz poster isn't running the team. They seem only concerned with what their best players aren't (this is especially true of Millsap, Deron and...gasp...AK).
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The irony being rich as Millsap clearly became one of the best players (3rd best at worst), hence people swinging wildly from Millsap being our savior to being 2 short lol
 
KOC BEGONE said:
Why would Milsap have to settle for the 6th man role? Did you see him lead us in Miami?
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I also saw him falter against bigger PF's. Millsap had a great 1/4 of the season. He was averaging 20/10 and then his performance tailed off. Same as the previous two seasons. When he replaced Boozer on a temporary basis, he had a run of great games. Then he would wear down or get injured. I LOVE Millsap. Paul is a warrior. He has a terrific attitude (or has had one) and work ethic. But I want the beast of a few years ago, The guy who would come in for 20 mins/per and take no prisoners. IMO, Paul can be an average starter or he can be a dominant 6th man. I know what would help the team more, especially when there is a 6'10" big, young, tough defensive-minded PF ready for additional minutes.
 
No I'm not basing Millsaps game on one game there was another game when he scored all the points in overtime and a bunch in the 4th and we ended up winning the game. If anything he is the only player that took over any game. Now later in the season he began to tail off. Yes, but what was happening at the same time? Big Al was coming into his own. I think he is a great starter and he doesn't have to settle for a 6th man role. It is difficult because it seem like the Jazz keep trying to upgrade the same position over and over again. But, I do think Favors is a year or two away and in the mean time lets let Paul prove himself.
 
pappyman said:
I would not trade Paul Millsap unless we get the #1 pick back (#3 pick and Paul Millsap for the #1 pick). However, I would be interested in trading Devin Harris and the #12 pick if it meant that we could draft Jimmer before Sacramento.
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You would give up Devin Harris and a lottery pick for Jimmer. Are you nuts?
 
bottom line, you don't trade Millsap unless you get a better starting caliber player back. I mentioned Bogut before... Wonder if ATL would be up for moving Horford?
 
I don't know if it was a fan pipedream or an NBA "Insider" rumor, but the only Milsap trade scenario that I've like is the one in which the Jazz land Danny Granger, and that seems like a long shot. Other than that, the other scenarios have been simply terrible.

Keep Milsap and MAKE him play the 6th man. Even if that pisses him off, he's still going to be a gamer and the Jazz have him under contract for 2 more seasons. By that time, he may realize how much better suited he is as a 6th man. If 2 years from now he's still pissed off, you have a coveted player in the last year of a really tolerable contract. You can easily trade him at that point.

Fact is, with Sap coming off the bench it starts to build much needed depth for the Jazz and keeps a veteran presence on the team. KOC has made no bones about the fact that he doesn't want an extremely young team. Trading Sap in a draft pick deal makes this team even younger.
 
jazzman12 said:
I don't know if it was a fan pipedream or an NBA "Insider" rumor, but the only Milsap trade scenario that I've like is the one in which the Jazz land Danny Granger, and that seems like a long shot. Other than that, the other scenarios have been simply terrible.

Keep Milsap and MAKE him play the 6th man. Even if that pisses him off, he's still going to be a gamer and the Jazz have him under contract for 2 more seasons. By that time, he may realize how much better suited he is as a 6th man. If 2 years from now he's still pissed off, you have a coveted player in the last year of a really tolerable contract. You can easily trade him at that point.

Fact is, with Sap coming off the bench it starts to build much needed depth for the Jazz and keeps a veteran presence on the team. KOC has made no bones about the fact that he doesn't want an extremely young team. Trading Sap in a draft pick deal makes this team even younger.
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I agree with this. This is why I think you make Favors earn the starting spot. Tell Favors that he needs to beat up Millsap everyday in practice and the spot is his. That way Millap and Favors both know he deserves the spot and Millsap won't be able to complain about being a sixth man.
 
green said:
I agree with this. This is why I think you make Favors earn the starting spot. Tell Favors that he needs to beat up Millsap everyday in practice and the spot is his. That way Millap and Favors both know he deserves the spot and Millsap won't be able to complain about being a sixth man.
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What if both Millsap and Favors outplay AJ leading up to the season? Favors has the length and athleticism to both guard 5s and provide good help D (to make up for Millsap's size). Had everyone ruled out AJ coming off the bench?
 
GVC said:
What if both Millsap and Favors outplay AJ leading up to the season? Favors has the length and athleticism to both guard 5s and provide good help D (to make up for Millsap's size). Had everyone ruled out AJ coming off the bench?
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I've mentioned this in another thread. To me AJ's game doesn't transilate all that well coming off the bench. The best analogy I could give is an NFL Running Back who's a grinder and might only be giving you 3.1 Yards Per Carry in the 1st Quarter, but by the 4th Quarter he's worn down a defense and is getting 5.8 YPC. Jefferson to me is a physical low post player who is going to punish you during the course of a game and get better as the game goes on. Milsap on the other hand is more of a high energy player who could check into a game and instantly give you a flurry of activity.
 
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