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Lindsey is a great later draft pick gm. As far as his high picks with Kancer and Exum he's obviously not been ideal.
He has signed no top level free agents. Yet he has signed high value free agents.
He's a very smart and intensity articulate person. He probably knew Hayward was gone and thought he could convince him to stay and that really made his moves look dumb.


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Utesnjazz said:
I agree that Larry was the one that probably held the ship together, but bottom line is that KOC made the playoffs nearly every year as our GM. With Dennis it rarely happens.

You guys are probably right, that fireing him would be a dumb basketball move,(it’s just the unreasonable fan in me) but if we are being realistic, with what we expected out of Dennis, he has failed, and it’s getting ugly
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KOC made the playoffs every year because he inherited Karl, John and Jerry. He made some good moves: Eisley for Marshall, Okur & Boozer, the trade for Fisher (even though he ended up being a douche and not even playing well on the court), Giricek for Korver (I blame Jerry for underutilizing this resource), and drafting Hayward and Kirilenko. Having Deron helped his job. However, he fit perfectly what I felt was Greg’s philosophy where they got the maximum return on the dollar and were simply striving for “competitive enough.” We brought back the same team for three years to get beat by the Lakers in the post season in successively less games each year. He took the passive approach to all free agent decisions (and I argue he probably advised DL on that his first summer with the reigns), his ideas of good moves were things like signing Calbert Cheaney, he’d go into the offseason saying things like “re-signing Jarron Collins is our top priority,” then he’d continue to overplay “sometimes no move is the best move.”

Greg and KOC passively pushes this franchise into rebuilding, which came to a head with the Deron/Sloan fiasco. DL inherited the lingering effects from KOC and he’s done a pretty good job, I’d say.
 
Utesnjazz said:
I agree that Larry was the one that probably held the ship together, but bottom line is that KOC made the playoffs nearly every year as our GM. With Dennis it rarely happens.

You guys are probably right, that fireing him would be a dumb basketball move,(it’s just the unreasonable fan in me) but if we are being realistic, with what we expected out of Dennis, he has failed, and it’s getting ugly
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KOC made the playoffs every year because he inherited Karl, John and Jerry. He made some good moves: Eisley for Marshall, Okur & Boozer, the trade for Fisher (even though he ended up being a douche and not even playing well on the court), Giricek for Korver (I blame Jerry for underutilizing this resource), and drafting Hayward and Kirilenko. Having Deron helped his job. However, he fit perfectly what I felt was Greg’s philosophy where they got the maximum return on the dollar and were simply striving for “competitive enough.” We brought back the same team for three years to get beat by the Lakers in the post season in successively less games each year. He took the passive approach to all free agent decisions (and I argue he probably advised DL on that his first summer with the reigns), his ideas of good moves were things like signing Calbert Cheaney, he’d go into the offseason saying things like “re-signing Jarron Collins is our top priority,” then he’d continue to overplay “sometimes no move is the best move.”

Greg and KOC passively pushes this franchise into rebuilding, which came to a head with the Deron/Sloan fiasco. DL inherited the lingering effects from KOC and he’s done a pretty good job, I’d say.
 
nateboz said:
Lindsey is a great later draft pick gm. As far as his high picks with Kancer and Exum he's obviously not been ideal.
He has signed no top level free agents. Yet he has signed high value free agents.
He's a very smart and intensity articulate person. He probably knew Hayward was gone and thought he could convince him to stay and that really made his moves look dumb.


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He didn’t draft Kanter. And regarding Exum, he was a consensus top 5 pick. Who should he have drafted at 5 instead? I suppose you could make a pretty good argument for Hood, but...
 
I think you guys are fooled by the smooth talking of Denis Lindsey. KOC > Lindsey any day. I mean really KOC was always competitive, making the playoffs, spending money. He drafted better with worst positioned draft picks. Took Dwill, Hayward, milsap, and other picks at least returned value. Ronnie brewer was flipped for a first round pick.

Does the fact that KOC teams made the playoffs mean nothing? Are you all ok with having to rebuild every 3-5 years under Lindsey?

Of course the jazz were in rebuild after KOC left, but that was obvious and Lindsey was set up well IMO. He had TONs of cap room, several first round picks, and several young players. Just because Lindsey messed the rebuild up doesn’t mean KOC left him in a bad spot. O and one more thing if Lindsey didn’t like Ty as the coach then he should have fired him. As the GM you don’t get to pass the buck on.
 
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You’re looking at a span of 15+ years, plus all of those choices being well into their primes, when you look at KOC’s draft history. In 5 years DL picked up Gobert, Mitchell and Hood, with non-lottery picks. Find me another team who’s hit on those picks in five years without any top ten picks. Then the jury is still out on Exum and Bradley. Overall, it looks pretty good. Anything those last two add is gravy.
 
I might have missed it, but I don’t think I have heard from Lindsey in a while. Quin has to talk every postgame, so do the players. I kind of think Lindsey ought to say something about Rudy injury, Exum injury, season expectations, upcoming events....anything really.

He should set the mood, and create the narrative before the fans and media do it for him.
 
mellow said:
I might have missed it, but I don’t think I have heard from Lindsey in a while. Quin has to talk every postgame, so do the players. I kind of think Lindsey ought to say something about Rudy injury, Exum injury, season expectations, upcoming events....anything really.

He should set the mood, and create the narrative before the fans and media do it for him.
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He is usually on the radio weekly. I have not had the chance to listen lately, but is this still the case? If so, had DL addressed these topics?
 
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