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After watching some of the NCAA tourney...

I just don't get the case that a foul isn't a foul. The officiating has been the best part of the tourney so far.

It's a tough one to argue, but I just think that unless a clear advantage was gained on a play like that, swallow the whistle and go to OT and let the players decide it. Had that official done that, there would not be anyone talking about how he didn't call that foul. Instead, there is talk about whether he made the right call.

And the officials are the best part of the tourney so far? When the discussions have been about the Pitt/Butler call, the five second call against Texas, and why they didn't review the clock at the end of the UNC game, I'd say the officials have had a tough time so far.
 
I agree with those who feel the game should be officiated consistently all the way through - I don't think the rules shouldn't change for the last five or ten seconds....


good article on March Madness in today's WSJ
https://www.smartmoney.com/personal-finance/college-planning/10-things-ncaa-basketball-wont-tell-you-1300486798956/

... 2. We make loads of money…

The players may be amateurs, but the NCAA men's basketball tournament is big business – second only to the Super Bowl in terms of ad sales for a postseason sporting event. A thirty-second commercial during one of the last two rounds of the tournament costs around $1.2 million, far more than a $440,0000 spot during the World Series, and more than three times the cost of an ad during the NBA championship, according to Kantar Media, a research firm....

All that ad revenue also translates to big bucks for the NCAA, which last year reached a new 14-year deal for the TV rights to the tournament with CBS and Turner Broadcasting System for $10.8 billion, or about $771 million a year....

3. …but not for your alma mater.

March Madness may make billions, but for most colleges it doesn't provide nearly enough cash to cover the rapidly escalating costs of running a first-class athletics program. In the 2008-2009 school year, only 13 Division I-A sports programs were in the black, according to research by the Center for College Affordability and Productivity (CCAP). The few financial winners include a handful of this year's tournament participants, including the University of Georgia ($1.8 million in earnings), Purdue ($2.3 million), University of Michigan ($10.6 million) and Texas A&M ($15.8 million). But most schools' athletics programs are actually a major drain on the school's finances. For example, the athletics program at the University of Houston lost $19.8 million in the 2008-2009 fiscal year, SUNY Buffalo (-$20.2 million)...

So who pays for big-time money losers? Student fees, says Richard Vedder, a professor of economics at Ohio University and the director of CCAP. The average Division I-A program needed $3.4 million in student fees in fiscal year 2009; in the Big 10 Conference, the average student fee subsidy was $383,000, and in the Mid-American Conference the average subsidy was $6.7 million. And because the NCAA's spoils go largely to the winners, students at schools with losing programs end up paying more in fees...

4. We're why college is getting so expensive.

At many schools, spending on sports is growing twice or three times as fast as spending on academics, according to the Knight Commission on Intercollegiate Athletics. Much of the growth is due to coaching staff salaries, which account for a third of overall sports program budgets at the average university or college, says Amy Perko, the Knight Commission's executive director. Division IA football coaches' salaries rose an astounding 46% from 2006 to 2009, to $1.4 million, according to the Knight Commission. And men's basketball coaches aren't too far behind...

Not only are coaches' salaries rising, the number of people on the payroll is growing, despite official NCAA rules that allow only three assistant coaches, Perko says....

...10. You're right – the ref is biased.

In college basketball, home teams win 69% of games – and the home-team advantage is nearly as strong in the NBA, where home teams win 63% of the time and nearly 99% of teams perform better at home than they do on the road, according to research by Moskowitz and Wertheim. The reason? Something many fans suspect, but Moskowitz and Wertheim say they have managed to statistically prove: referee bias....

Read more: 10 Things NCAA Basketball Won't Tell You - SmartMoney.com https://www.smartmoney.com/personal...ll-wont-tell-you-1300486798956/#ixzz1HFQKo2df
 
My .02 is get rid of continuation and T up all complaining at refs by players (yes, complain at, not to). #1 would do wonders in the continuity department. Some games are unbearable with all the free throw stoppages.

I'd also like to see the back door get more push. We need more back door action. Some of these guys can really hit the back door hard, but must be told it's a no entry zone. I guess they like the traditional front from the mid-post, and backdoor just gets too invasive when you prefer banging away straight up over sneaking in behind a guy's defense.
 
I'd also like to see the back door get more push. We need more back door action. Some of these guys can really hit the back door hard, but must be told it's a no entry zone. I guess they like the traditional front from the mid-post, and backdoor just gets too invasive when you prefer banging away straight up over sneaking in behind a guy's defense.

Clark Kellogg was talking about ATM players a lot. I guess this explains it.
 
What about the 5 second call in the Arizona vs. Texas game. Replay shows he hadn't hit 5 seconds before he was calling timeout. That gave the ball back to Arizona and the win.

I missed that one I guess. I heard about it today and it sounded like it was a bad call. But the Butler game I felt both calls were correct. In the game with the no call at the end it looked like a clean block. In the NBA the refs call the Phantom call if it's a big name player and neither of those calls in the Butler-Pitt game get called. If it's a foul it's a foul. The Pitt player is a moran for fouling in that situation. Or for even getting near him in a tie game with seconds left and the guy on the wrong end of the floor.

I just watched around the horn and it does appear that 5 second call was BS.
 
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Seriously, WTF was NC player (Harrsion Barnes? I believe?) thinking during the remaining time in the U-Dub NC game? Reaching for a ball clearly going out of bounds and then goal-tending the last shot (yeah, replay showed it was a 2 but he didn't know that at the time). And nice officiating, hosing Wash out of about a seconds worth of time on the aforementioned inbounds play.
 
And I disagree. That last call was horrendous. Any good official would swallow their whistle and let the teams go to OT rather than call a ticky-tack reach in at that point.

YB, I agree with the idea of refs not deciding the game on ticky-tack fouls at the last second, but I thought both of those fouls were so obvious, the refs had to call it, and once they called the first, they had to call the second.
 
Clark Kellogg was talking about ATM players a lot. I guess this explains it.

I looked up some quotes and this guy is a machine. Sorry, YB, but you're no longer #1 in my book.

I like the way Princeton Rub sounds. Nice ring to it.

**Edit** Damn it. I googled it at work. I'm in deep trouble, but the good news is it put you back on top (of Kellogg).
 
Seriously, WTF was NC player (Harrsion Barnes? I believe?) thinking during the remaining time in the U-Dub NC game? Reaching for a ball clearly going out of bounds and then goal-tending the last shot (yeah, replay showed it was a 2 but he didn't know that at the time). And nice officiating, hosing Wash out of about a seconds worth of time on the aforementioned inbounds play.

he was trying to inflate his rebounding stats.
 
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