Chinggis47
New Member
interesting article on Russian newspaper... one thing that he mentioned was with Boozer and Korver gone he said that he might expect a bigger role on offense and that he "might have to go back to his roots/sources"...
AK is going to miss the FIBA WC
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The Ghost of Blue Edwards
Member
Man, he's gonna be disappointed. Jefferson or Williams will have the ball a good 80% of the time.
Jazz offensive options:
1. Jefferson
2. Williams
3. Millsap
4. Bell
5. AK/Miles
Jazz offensive options:
1. Jefferson
2. Williams
3. Millsap
4. Bell
5. AK/Miles
I'd switch 4 and 5. I think AK/CJ will get more looks/touches than Bell. The rest of your list I agree with
CareySkyScurry
Member
What does going back to his "roots" mean? PF? Slashing? 6th man?
Chinggis47
New Member
they way he said it in Russian, I think he meant carrying a bigger offensive load - back to his earlier years in Utah...
CareySkyScurry
Member
Do you have the link to the article in English?
The Thriller
Well-Known Member
Is he smoking crack?
What makes he think that he'll get any more touches than before?
Jefferson deserves just as many, if not more touches, than Boozer. Millsap deserves touches. Raja and Deron will get theirs. The way CJ was playing offensively in the playoffs last year certainly deserves touches.
I just don't understand where AK47 is getting the idea that he'll end up having more touches this next year. Once Jefferson gets used to our offense, he, Deron, Millsap, and CJ will be our core offensive guys. Once Memo comes back, he'll be another offensive player that will command more touches than AK47. Depending on how Hayward plays, he too should and probably will demand just as many touches if not more, than Korver.
Where will AK47 fit in? If the thinks that this is the 03-04 Jazz then I'm afraid he's in for another rude awakening. I'd compare this team to the 06-07 Jazz team than the 03-04. Which, interestingly enough, was the year that AK47 had a little cry fit for not getting touches.
Honestly, where will he fit in once Jefferson is used to the offense, Hayward gets regular minutes, and Memo comes back? How is this next year going to be any different for AK47 than any other year?
What makes he think that he'll get any more touches than before?
Jefferson deserves just as many, if not more touches, than Boozer. Millsap deserves touches. Raja and Deron will get theirs. The way CJ was playing offensively in the playoffs last year certainly deserves touches.
I just don't understand where AK47 is getting the idea that he'll end up having more touches this next year. Once Jefferson gets used to our offense, he, Deron, Millsap, and CJ will be our core offensive guys. Once Memo comes back, he'll be another offensive player that will command more touches than AK47. Depending on how Hayward plays, he too should and probably will demand just as many touches if not more, than Korver.
Where will AK47 fit in? If the thinks that this is the 03-04 Jazz then I'm afraid he's in for another rude awakening. I'd compare this team to the 06-07 Jazz team than the 03-04. Which, interestingly enough, was the year that AK47 had a little cry fit for not getting touches.
Honestly, where will he fit in once Jefferson is used to the offense, Hayward gets regular minutes, and Memo comes back? How is this next year going to be any different for AK47 than any other year?
Chinggis47
New Member
just in Russian: https://basketball.sport-express.ru/reviews/6783/
- he's not going to talk about it a lot (decision to skip WC)
- he admits it's a very important year for him...
- he's following a "special program" Jazz gave him so he can gain weight again...
- once again AK says he wants to stay in Jazz... if he gets traded it's going to be against his will...
- coming back to the starting 5 last season was not an accident, he wants to start again...
CareySkyScurry
Member
Thanks for the recap. Much appreciated
billyshelby
Well-Known Member
It's possible for you to get more depressed?
NotDeadYet
Well-Known Member
The problem with AK is when he's on the perimeter as a SF, he get's lost on offense and is less active defensively. When he's the PF, he belongs closer to the basket, so slashes much more into the paint area, is quicker than most in there and can beat them to the ball because of his quickness with both his feet and active hands. In short, he gets to do what he does best; a disruptor on both the offensive glass and as a defensive maniac!!
With all indications Hayward will be in the rotation and CJ greatly improved the last half of last season, I'd think AK will be rotating mostly at PF with Millsap, and Jefferson will start at C.
With all indications Hayward will be in the rotation and CJ greatly improved the last half of last season, I'd think AK will be rotating mostly at PF with Millsap, and Jefferson will start at C.
Here's the article translated into English by Google, so it's kind of rough, but you can still get the idea of it.
Forgot to note that it was posted 7/15/2010, so just today in Russia.
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Andrei Kirilenko: "Somebody call me a traitor"
Forward, Utah Jazz and Russian team Andrei Kirilenko.
REUTERS
WORLD 2010
Forward club NBA Utah Jazz, Andrei Kirilenko just will not play for Team Russia at the World Championships, which will be held in Turkey from August 28 to September 12. Also, the 2010 World Cup may miss two key players - defender John Robert Holden and center Alexander Kaun.
On Tuesday afternoon, picking up a phone number Kirilenko, I had only been asked about plans for a 29-year basketball player. But he did not say and a pair of sentences, as interlocutor "to forestall": "It is good that you called. I have something to say to the press." Then we decided to move the conversation to late evening. And several hours later, Kirilenko dotted his i:
- At the World Cup I will not go. Recently, I had a last conversation with the leadership of "Utah", on the basis of which the parties came to the conclusion - I should like to be restored after injury. The club were very pleased with the state in which I appeared in the team a year ago. In good physical shape, scored a credible ... And at first, until you started injuries, the season was forming for me very well. So now we have agreed that the World Cup will have to sacrifice.
For me it was a very difficult decision. Most likely, this interview - the only thing that appears in the press. Once again discuss this topic, something I do not want to comment on. Just because there is no desire to speak.
- What arguments led leadership "Utah"?
- Two major - my injury and good form at the beginning of last season. Note that in the club I only recommend to miss the World Cup. Management only expressed his point of view, but the last word to me. So the decision was taken by myself ... You see, I can not and do not have the right to disregard the position of your club. And it must be respected. Here I paid for, here for many years I have invested in a lot of money - and therefore entitled to claim appropriate benefits. This view, I must support. And not to answer "I want" or "duty calls me." First of all, I am obliged to help the club. How would I myself nor would do otherwise.
- When was the first conversation with the leadership of "Utah"?
- After the end of the season. It was the final meeting at which executives inquired about the plans for each player. I conversed with coach Jerry Sloan and general manager Kevin O'Connor. I was told: "We have always respected the interests of each player. And were very pleased with the way you played this season before the injury. However, because of it, you missed the ending of the championship and going for quite a while to recover. And the recovery should go not to force, and so as to avoid recurrence of injury. In addition, Andrew, if you play at the world championships, for us it will be an additional stress. " We agreed that if in the future something changes, I will review our position. However, everything remained as it was. I'm actually still continue to recover.
- How much influenced your decision the fact that the coming season - the last under the current contract with Utoy?
- It is also important. No one knows the situation in the NBA from within. Last year - a very important year. But in general all the NBA teams are about the same for the World Cup. Look at how many players refused to go to Turkey (Gazol Spaniard, a Frenchman Parker, Nowitzki German, Argentinian Zhinobili and others. - Approx. PO).
- Your failure likely would cause serious resonance in Russia. Are you ready for this?
- I understand everything. Including - the fans. I myself would be in their place was indignant! And I really do not like the situation in which I was. But I do have obligations. And I do not want to strike either himself or others. Yes, public opinion means a lot. But try to influence him, I'm not. I decided and did not change that I can.
- I'm sure many will perceive it so - say, Kirilenko gave team for the NBA ...
- Let the people speak and write anything you want. Surely someone will understand me, someone, on the contrary, would call a traitor. But I am sure that clever people - just misunderstood. And the rest will draw conclusions on the emotions. I never said a single bad word about the team and always came to her on the first call. What to do if a second consecutive year, circumstances are not in my favor ...
- What do you feel when you made the final decision?
- At first it was very painful. For the second year in a row does not work to help the national team. But then, when everything again carefully examined, then realized: in this situation acted, probably correctly. Do not forget that in recent years in the "Utah" There were several such changes that the new season in my first match should be sparks flying from his eyes. I mean the departure of Boozer and Corvera. It is possible that I will have to return to the "sources". That is my role in the attack may now be much more important.
- For the second year in a row does not get help. " You are not alarmed that these failures are systemic?
- I can not control people, their opinion. I do not want to explain anything further. But it is not doing anything on purpose, so they treated me well, and not otherwise. At the same time, I'm not trying to play up and look for excuses to say: tired of the heavy season, I want to relax ...
- What do you mean non-participation in the World Cup?
- It is very unpleasant. How unpleasant, for example, do not leave the group at the Olympics. But life does not end there.
- Imagine that you - the head of "Utah" and discuss with your player a question about his participation in the World Cup. How to behave?
- If I was a player, I pay more than 15 million a year? .. I would tell him: "Decide, of course, himself. But in any case I'll need you healthy and full of energy, and not played the hardest tournament, which will specially prepare.
- The "Utah" Every year you give out a special training program for the new season. It was at this time?
- Print. Exactly the same as a year ago. In preparation for it, I then played very well - until the series began injuries. No accident that during the season back in the starting five.
- When your contract expires with the "Jazz"?
- Officially, if not mistaken, July 1, 2011. And while there are no negotiations on a new agreement with the club I led. And other teams are generally prohibited. However, from my own experience I know: in the "Utah" normally sign new contracts with the players beforehand. Beginning in the autumn and somewhere to mid-February, when the ban comes into force on the transitions. In any case, the "Jazz" I spent wonderful years. Only now thinking: the upcoming season will be for me to have the 10th in the club! But to change the team in the last year of the contract I have no desire. After all, if you change, you probably do not go where I myself would like.
- Back to the World Cup. In the team someone already knows about your decision?
- On the final - in fact none. Is that Victor Khryapa, which rests with me in France. Of course, he took it without enthusiasm.
- What did he say?
- One word that I would not like to repeat. In principle, any secret of what is happening, I did not. Just a final clarity was not until the last day.
- It is considered that the national team with Kirilenko and without it - two different teams.
- But no one would dispute that we now have grown up a good new generation. Which is very trying and now plays an important role in their clubs. These kids grow up, mature, man. Who could have imagined five years ago that Khryapa and Monya will now be in a team of veterans? At the same time, each team is judged by its results. "Past" the Russian national team was twice vice-champion of the world. The present - became the European champion. And I hope that she can still achieve much. For me now the main tournament is the next European Championship - 2011.
- Suppose a year be a new problem: you simply will not contract with any NBA club. In this situation, you can opt to go to the team?
- Here's a version I just do not care. When you are free, then he has the right to decide how to proceed. And I do not hesitate to choose the national team. Related to this potential problem does not scare me. A contract can be signed always. For example, before the European championships.
Pavel Osipov
/ 15.07.2010
Forgot to note that it was posted 7/15/2010, so just today in Russia.
----------------------------------------
Andrei Kirilenko: "Somebody call me a traitor"
Forward, Utah Jazz and Russian team Andrei Kirilenko.
REUTERS
WORLD 2010
Forward club NBA Utah Jazz, Andrei Kirilenko just will not play for Team Russia at the World Championships, which will be held in Turkey from August 28 to September 12. Also, the 2010 World Cup may miss two key players - defender John Robert Holden and center Alexander Kaun.
On Tuesday afternoon, picking up a phone number Kirilenko, I had only been asked about plans for a 29-year basketball player. But he did not say and a pair of sentences, as interlocutor "to forestall": "It is good that you called. I have something to say to the press." Then we decided to move the conversation to late evening. And several hours later, Kirilenko dotted his i:
- At the World Cup I will not go. Recently, I had a last conversation with the leadership of "Utah", on the basis of which the parties came to the conclusion - I should like to be restored after injury. The club were very pleased with the state in which I appeared in the team a year ago. In good physical shape, scored a credible ... And at first, until you started injuries, the season was forming for me very well. So now we have agreed that the World Cup will have to sacrifice.
For me it was a very difficult decision. Most likely, this interview - the only thing that appears in the press. Once again discuss this topic, something I do not want to comment on. Just because there is no desire to speak.
- What arguments led leadership "Utah"?
- Two major - my injury and good form at the beginning of last season. Note that in the club I only recommend to miss the World Cup. Management only expressed his point of view, but the last word to me. So the decision was taken by myself ... You see, I can not and do not have the right to disregard the position of your club. And it must be respected. Here I paid for, here for many years I have invested in a lot of money - and therefore entitled to claim appropriate benefits. This view, I must support. And not to answer "I want" or "duty calls me." First of all, I am obliged to help the club. How would I myself nor would do otherwise.
- When was the first conversation with the leadership of "Utah"?
- After the end of the season. It was the final meeting at which executives inquired about the plans for each player. I conversed with coach Jerry Sloan and general manager Kevin O'Connor. I was told: "We have always respected the interests of each player. And were very pleased with the way you played this season before the injury. However, because of it, you missed the ending of the championship and going for quite a while to recover. And the recovery should go not to force, and so as to avoid recurrence of injury. In addition, Andrew, if you play at the world championships, for us it will be an additional stress. " We agreed that if in the future something changes, I will review our position. However, everything remained as it was. I'm actually still continue to recover.
- How much influenced your decision the fact that the coming season - the last under the current contract with Utoy?
- It is also important. No one knows the situation in the NBA from within. Last year - a very important year. But in general all the NBA teams are about the same for the World Cup. Look at how many players refused to go to Turkey (Gazol Spaniard, a Frenchman Parker, Nowitzki German, Argentinian Zhinobili and others. - Approx. PO).
- Your failure likely would cause serious resonance in Russia. Are you ready for this?
- I understand everything. Including - the fans. I myself would be in their place was indignant! And I really do not like the situation in which I was. But I do have obligations. And I do not want to strike either himself or others. Yes, public opinion means a lot. But try to influence him, I'm not. I decided and did not change that I can.
- I'm sure many will perceive it so - say, Kirilenko gave team for the NBA ...
- Let the people speak and write anything you want. Surely someone will understand me, someone, on the contrary, would call a traitor. But I am sure that clever people - just misunderstood. And the rest will draw conclusions on the emotions. I never said a single bad word about the team and always came to her on the first call. What to do if a second consecutive year, circumstances are not in my favor ...
- What do you feel when you made the final decision?
- At first it was very painful. For the second year in a row does not work to help the national team. But then, when everything again carefully examined, then realized: in this situation acted, probably correctly. Do not forget that in recent years in the "Utah" There were several such changes that the new season in my first match should be sparks flying from his eyes. I mean the departure of Boozer and Corvera. It is possible that I will have to return to the "sources". That is my role in the attack may now be much more important.
- For the second year in a row does not get help. " You are not alarmed that these failures are systemic?
- I can not control people, their opinion. I do not want to explain anything further. But it is not doing anything on purpose, so they treated me well, and not otherwise. At the same time, I'm not trying to play up and look for excuses to say: tired of the heavy season, I want to relax ...
- What do you mean non-participation in the World Cup?
- It is very unpleasant. How unpleasant, for example, do not leave the group at the Olympics. But life does not end there.
- Imagine that you - the head of "Utah" and discuss with your player a question about his participation in the World Cup. How to behave?
- If I was a player, I pay more than 15 million a year? .. I would tell him: "Decide, of course, himself. But in any case I'll need you healthy and full of energy, and not played the hardest tournament, which will specially prepare.
- The "Utah" Every year you give out a special training program for the new season. It was at this time?
- Print. Exactly the same as a year ago. In preparation for it, I then played very well - until the series began injuries. No accident that during the season back in the starting five.
- When your contract expires with the "Jazz"?
- Officially, if not mistaken, July 1, 2011. And while there are no negotiations on a new agreement with the club I led. And other teams are generally prohibited. However, from my own experience I know: in the "Utah" normally sign new contracts with the players beforehand. Beginning in the autumn and somewhere to mid-February, when the ban comes into force on the transitions. In any case, the "Jazz" I spent wonderful years. Only now thinking: the upcoming season will be for me to have the 10th in the club! But to change the team in the last year of the contract I have no desire. After all, if you change, you probably do not go where I myself would like.
- Back to the World Cup. In the team someone already knows about your decision?
- On the final - in fact none. Is that Victor Khryapa, which rests with me in France. Of course, he took it without enthusiasm.
- What did he say?
- One word that I would not like to repeat. In principle, any secret of what is happening, I did not. Just a final clarity was not until the last day.
- It is considered that the national team with Kirilenko and without it - two different teams.
- But no one would dispute that we now have grown up a good new generation. Which is very trying and now plays an important role in their clubs. These kids grow up, mature, man. Who could have imagined five years ago that Khryapa and Monya will now be in a team of veterans? At the same time, each team is judged by its results. "Past" the Russian national team was twice vice-champion of the world. The present - became the European champion. And I hope that she can still achieve much. For me now the main tournament is the next European Championship - 2011.
- Suppose a year be a new problem: you simply will not contract with any NBA club. In this situation, you can opt to go to the team?
- Here's a version I just do not care. When you are free, then he has the right to decide how to proceed. And I do not hesitate to choose the national team. Related to this potential problem does not scare me. A contract can be signed always. For example, before the European championships.
Pavel Osipov
/ 15.07.2010