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All-Time NBA Draft Final Four: addictionary vs. White Chocolate

Which team would win in a 7-game series?

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  • Poll closed .
White Chocolate said:
Barkley had a much lower usage rate (26.9% vs. 32.6% for AD) and was more efficient. He shot 52% on 18 shots a game vs. 50% on 20 shots a game for AD.

Age has nothing to do with this. We aren't projecting whether someone is going to have a better career.
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Barkleys shots were mostly inside shots. The brows we're from all over the court including three. The fact that they are within 2% shooting shows just how good the brow is. That stat is in his favor. Davis does almost everything better than Barkley except passing.
 
Ron Mexico said:
Barkleys shots were mostly inside shots. The brows we're from all over the court including three. The fact that they are within 2% shooting shows just how good the brow is. That stat is in his favor. Davis does almost everything better than Barkley except passing.
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You do realize that Barkley shot 30.5% from 3 on 2.9 attempts and Davis shot 29.9% from 3 on 1.8 attempts right?

Do you guys even do any research or just speak off what sounds good for your argument?
 
Ellis269 said:
Stockton >>> Westbrook
Pierce >> Harden
Pippen >>>>>>>>> Mashburn
Barkley >>> AD
Mourning <<<<< Shaq

WC for me and it's not even close. That Shaq/AD combo is potent. . . but WC built a better team. And on top of that, Mashburn is the worst starter in the whole competition. Has no business at all being in a starting lineup. I'd rather have Carmelo Anthony in my starting lineup. . . and he's on WC's bench.
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Hell, I'd rather have Iguodala starting than Mashburn. And he is ALSO on WC's bench. Mashburn is definitely the weak link, but generally, I just think WC has a more complete team. Westbrook and Harden will probably be remembered as all time greats, but NOT YET. OK, Westbrook definitely will be, maybe not Harden.
 
franklin said:
Addictionary easily. Has anyone mentioned how much of an underrated defender Shaq was? He has a better career DRTG than any single season of AD, who's considered pretty damn good as well. That big man combo would crush White's team on both ends of the floor. Westbrook, Harden, and Wall would tear Stockton and Pierce apart.
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My man.
 
Barkley had a better TRB% than Davis too.

What exactly is Davis better than Barkley at except defense?
 
I just vote, no need to give an opinion, too many hurt feelings (not talking about anyone specifically).
 
I'm amazed that I'm losing this matchup right now.

Even if I gave Harden the advantage over Pierce which is questionable at best, I still have a 3-2 advantage in starters.

My 6th and 7th best players are better than his starting SF.
 
Ellis269 said:
Blake Griffin maybe. Harden has done nothing except put up a bunch of (admittedly great) high usage regular season stats. He should be a 6th man - not a starter.

By the way. . . love the writeup against One Love. Epic.
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Bold. A perennial MVP contender who's taken his team deep into the playoffs...
 
White Chocolate said:
You do realize that Barkley shot 30.5% from 3 on 2.9 attempts and Davis shot 29.9% from 3 on 1.8 attempts right?

Do you guys even do any research or just speak off what sounds good for your argument?
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Apparently you suck at research if thats what you call research.

You do realize you just cherry picked his best year right? So based on that you are taking Barkely at 31 years old. Good to know, then Davis is much better than a 31 year old Barkley. Stats arent really close that year. Even more of a reason to take Davis then. Unless in this competition we get to mix and match their best stats from whatever year we want. Seems like that is what you are doing anyways.

Barkely is a career 26% shooter from three.

Barkley did shoot some threes and a few long 2s but the vast majority of his points were in the paint, around 50%. Davis has a much lower percentage of points in the paint.

This year Davis shot 28% inside 3 feet, 23% 3-10 feet, 17% 10-16 feet, 22.8% 16 to 3 point line and 8% from three. He shot 70% inside 3 feet (where over 50% of Barkley points came from), 45% 3-10, 46.7 10-16 feet and 41.4% from beyond. Those are much better shooting numbers than Barkley.

So again facts point to Davis already being a much better scorer and has a much better ability to space the floor from all around.

Davis is a better all around scorer, a better shooter and a better defender. Davis can also handle the ball and dribble better. Barkley might be a slightly better rebounder and he is a better passer.
 
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White Chocolate said:
I'm curious to hear your thoughts on this matchup.
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I think there is no way your team can keep up with addi's offensive power. Stockton is a wonderful PG, but he can't keep up with Westbrook, and I think Harden is a little better than Paul Pierce. Barkley is tiny, if tenacious. He had an advantage over bigs of that era due to his solid mid-range shooting, but AD can keep up with him NP. And then you have Shaq...

You have a good team. They are great defensively, and they fit better than the Westbrook/Harden combo(unless one assumes a smaller role like in OKC). But no way in hell can they contain the offensive output of addi's front and backcourt. It's crazy versatile, with the ability to dominate from any spot.
 
Ron Mexico said:
Apparently you suck at research if thats what you call research.

You do realize you just cherry picked his best year right? So based on that you are taking Barkely at 31 years old. Good to know, then Davis is much better than a 31 year old Barkley. Stats arent really close that year. Even more of a reason to take Davis then. Unless in this competition we get to mix and match their best stats from whatever year we want. Seems like that is what you are doing anyways.

Barkely is a career 26% shooter from three.

Barkley did shoot some threes and a few long 2s but the vast majority of his points were in the paint. Davis has a much lower percentage of points in the paint.

This year Davis shot 28% inside 3 feet, 23% 3-10 feet, 17% 10-16 feet, 22.8% 16 to 3 point line and 8% from three. He shot 70% inside 3 feet (where over 50% of Barkley points came from), 45% 3-10, 46.7 10-16 feet and 41.4% from beyond. Those are much better shooting numbers than Barkley.

So again facts point to Davis already being a much better shooter and has a much better ability to space the floor from all around.

Davis is a better all around scorer, a better shooter and a better defender. Davis can also handle the ball and dribble better. Barkley might be a slightly better rebounder and he is a better passer.
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WTF are you even saying? We're comparing Barkley's MVP season to Davis season this past year. I'm not mixing stats and that wasn't his best year from three. How did I cherry-pick his best year from three when it wasn't his best year from three? Lol dude.. stop while you're behind.
 
Ron Mexico said:
Apparently you suck at research if thats what you call research.

You do realize you just cherry picked his best year right? So based on that you are taking Barkely at 31 years old. Good to know, then Davis is much better than a 31 year old Barkley. Stats arent really close that year. Even more of a reason to take Davis then. Unless in this competition we get to mix and match their best stats from whatever year we want. Seems like that is what you are doing anyways.

Barkely is a career 26% shooter from three.

Barkley did shoot some threes and a few long 2s but the vast majority of his points were in the paint, around 50%. Davis has a much lower percentage of points in the paint.

This year Davis shot 28% inside 3 feet, 23% 3-10 feet, 17% 10-16 feet, 22.8% 16 to 3 point line and 8% from three. He shot 70% inside 3 feet (where over 50% of Barkley points came from), 45% 3-10, 46.7 10-16 feet and 41.4% from beyond. Those are much better shooting numbers than Barkley.

So again facts point to Davis already being a much better scorer and has a much better ability to space the floor from all around.

Davis is a better all around scorer, a better shooter and a better defender. Davis can also handle the ball and dribble better. Barkley might be a slightly better rebounder and he is a better passer.
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I don't have numbers to share sorry, but AD indeed is a lot better shooter than Barkley. He also has a different type of athleticism which he can use on individual possessions, while Barkley was entirely a different character and a great hustler. Hr had the mad strength too. But if he matches ip with AD, he is gonna get blocked and scored on a lot. Maybe the real Barkley would find a way, but he would also scare away Pippen who would run to MJ but get rejected and then go around telling people Lebron is better than MJ.
 
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