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All-Time NBA Draft Final Four: ONE LOVE vs. spycam1

Which team would win in a 7-game series?


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Elizah Huge

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Team ONE LOVE:

PG - Gary Payton / Dennis Johnson
SG - Reggie Miller / Michael Redd
SF - Paul George / Glenn Robinson
PF - Tim Duncan / Rasheed Wallace
C - Dikembe Mutombo / DeMarcus Cousins

Team spycam1:

PG - Deron Williams / Isaiah Thomas
SG - Michael Jordan / Bruce Bowen
SF - Chris Mullin / Ron Artest
PF - Shawn Kemp / Rashard Lewis
C - Hakeem Olajuwon / LaMarcus Aldridge
 
ONE LOVE's Case:

Offensive Philosophy

First and foremost the leadership of Gary Payton and Tim Duncan will GALVANIZE and DRIVE this team.

This team will play inside-out basketball with the ever reliable Gary Payton directing the offense together with Tim Duncan down low. An accomplished low post scorer, Tim Duncan will feature prominently offensively, making plays for himself and others.

Reggie Miller, a proven clutch player, will be money with his near perfect clutch 3pt shooting also providing space inside for Duncan to operate. Paul George is also a proven 3pt shooter and slasher and will also score & draw fouls at will.

In the 2nd unit there are scorers galore, again, playing inside out basketball, starting with the DOMINANT and DYNAMIC pairing of Rasheed Wallace and DeMarcus Cousins, both accomplished low post scorers. Then once the defense sags, Michael Redd and Glenn Robinson, both are great outside threats will be wide open to score at will. The ever reliable Dennis Johnson will distribute the ball to where it needs to go and he brings Championship pedigree (1979 Finals MVP) to the 2nd unit.

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Defensive Philosophy

Defensively this is where this team will DOMINATE. Defense starts at the PG with Gary Payton, the only point guard to have ever won a DPOY.

Gary Payton in his prime is considered the best defender of Michael Jordan, and Payton will REALLY LICKING HIS CHOPS at the chance of stopping Jordan again here.

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Then you add Tim Duncan and Dikembe Mutombo, 2 of the best defensive bigs to have ever played the game patrolling the paint and blocking shots. Dikembe Mutombo, one of the best defensive center to have ever played the game, and Tim Duncan, the defensive big with no less than 5 championship rings. Duncan and Dikembe will really make life difficult for Olajuwon in the middle. If anyone can stop Hakeem, it will be the Duncan and Dikembe combo.

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Match-up with Spycam1

Post: Dikembe/Duncan = Olajuwon/Kemp

Wing: Miller/George < Jordan/Mullins

Point Guard Payton >>> DWill

Bench Cousins/Wallace/Robinson/Redd/Johnson >> Aldridge/Lewis/Artest/Bowen/Thomas

Spycam has put together a nice team. In the post, defensively, the Dikembe and Duncan twin towers are 2 of the best defensive bigs in the history of the NBA and they are BOTH going make it very difficult for Olajuwon to score inside. No easy baskets here.

In the wing, Gary Payton, touted as the best defender of Michael Jordan will REALLY RELISH the task of stopping him once more. Then occasionally Paul George and Reggie Miller, both very good and long defensive players, will also make it very DIFFICULT for Jordan.

In such a close match, the difference between these 2 teams will be the battle of the 2nd units where the Cousins/Wallace pairing will simply CRUSH Aldridge/Lewis offensively. The lopsided match-up will provide a 10 point differential everytime they enter the game, giving the team a 20 point cushion each game.

In summary, the combination of Duncan and Dikembe are going to stifle Olajuwon, and Gary Payton, Paul George and Miller will make life EXTREMELY difficult for Jordan. In the end, the BALANCED scoring, and a Championship Caliber DEFENSE will translate to a very closely fought 4-3 series win.

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spycam1's Case:

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EPISODE VIII

THE LAST BITCH STAR


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MICHAEL AIRWALKER has returned to his home planet of Jazzfanzia in an attempt to rescue his friend HAKEEM OLAJEDI from the clutches of the vile gangster KINKKY THE HUTT. Little does Mike know that the Kinkky Empire has secretly begun construction on a new armored training facility even more annoying than the first dreaded BITCH STAR--with even more alts. When completed, this ultimate weapon will spell certain doom for the small band of posters struggling to restore freedom to the forum...

Only two have the power to defeat him...


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D-Will < Payton
MJ > Miller
Mullin > George
Kemp < Duncan
Olajuwon > Mutumbo


I have the two best players in the series, and I win the starting lineup 3-2.

Easy choice.

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Safe to say JTT ruined this year's competition by handing Spycam victory.
 
Spycam team is dope as ****
 
Ok this is as good as over.


When a single trade essentially means a team is trashed (JustTheTip) in the first and another team gets a cakewalk to the Finals (Spy) by the same team (me), then I think the system needs to be changed to make it more fair and competitive for everyone.


I think for future competitions we need to bring back the veto system that Wes used when he ran the competition a few years back. He made it clear from the get go that a heavily lopsided trade could be put to a vote and if more than something like 50% of the participants (excluding those involved in the trade) veto the trade, then the trade doesn't go through.


It would stop this kind of lopsided 'dealing' from happening.


I've got nothing but love for Spy, but I think we need to look at something to ensure the competition is fair and fun, and not have someone who joins in for the first time like JustTheTip make a monumental mental error and handing over someone like Olajuwon to a team that already had MJ, and 1) Thinks that he can still beat that team, and 2) Kept cheering for the other team to win the competition as a whole (i.e., the #spywins campaign).


Just my 2 cents...
 
You were one of the people saying the trade wasn't that bad.

So you wanted to kick JTT out, and I said the trade didn't look at THAT bad on paper. It is reasonable to try to build a team with better mid-range picks at the expense of having no top pick.

Nonetheless, you're the commissioner and you should've vetoed the trade. So really, your fault. :p
 
So you wanted to kick JTT out, and I said the trade didn't look at THAT bad on paper. It is reasonable to try to build a team with better mid-range picks at the expense of having no top pick.

Nonetheless, you're the commissioner and you should've vetoed the trade. So really, your fault. :p

I did veto the trade and tried to kick him out but endless bitching from everyone kept him in it.

Does everyone understand now?
 
I did veto the trade and tried to kick him out but endless bitching from everyone kept him in it.

Does everyone understand now?

You didn't veto the trade. If you did, spycam wouldn't have Jordan and Hakeem. We were "bitching" because you overreacted. I don't think JTT was trying to ruin the draft. He thought he'd have depth and balance by moving up so much in the middle. At least, that's how I saw it. There was no reason to try and expel him.

Either way, if you thought the trade wasn't fair, you shouldn't have let it go thru. You had the power. Not my fault you didn't have the balls to use it. But I gave my sincere opinion then, as I'm doing now.
 
You didn't veto the trade. If you did, spycam wouldn't have Jordan and Hakeem. We were "bitching" because you overreacted. I don't think JTT was trying to ruin the draft. He thought he'd have depth and balance by moving up so much in the middle. At least, that's how I saw it. There was no reason to try and expel him.

Either way, if you thought the trade wasn't fair, you shouldn't have let it go thru. You had the power. Not my fault you didn't have the balls to use it. But I gave my sincere opinion then, as I'm doing now.

I'm not a dictator. Half of the people were saying it wasn't a bad trade. Not my fault I was right and the people weren't.
 
I'm not a dictator. Half of the people were saying it wasn't a bad trade. Not my fault I was right and the people weren't.

What's done is done. Now do the right thing and rally people to vote against spycam in the finals. :D
 
What's done is done. Now do the right thing and rally people to vote against spycam in the finals. :D

I actually would have a legit case.

Stockton/Pippen/Barkley are all better than his other players around MJ/Hakeem.
 
I'm not a dictator. Half of the people were saying it wasn't a bad trade. Not my fault I was right and the people weren't.

True. People were saying it wasn't a bad trade at the time which I'm still confused by.


In hindsight I probably should have called for a vote right there and then. But then people might not have the foresight to see that the MJ & Olajuwon pairing would have crushed the competition this badly.


Going forward we need to save the competition from people who can't save themselves.
 
What was the trade?

I think this would be a pretty fun series, but Akeem and MJ would prove to be too much
 
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