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The Utah Jazz are no longer a playoff seeded team and on the outside looking in.

The west is too deep this year for this team to make the playoffs. I know it's early and some may say a knee jerk reaction to the two losses but it's the truth.

We actually went from 1.5 out if 1st overall to 4th in the NW with two losses.

My goals for the rest of the season :
Develop young talent (Burks/Favors/Hayward/Kanter)
Get something in value for Harris and Jefferson via trade
End the season at .500 like I predicted - don't give up and throw in the towel as losing breeds losing
Millsap - keep the guy happy somehow/someway
 
Cope said:
The Utah Jazz are no longer a playoff seeded team and on the outside looking in.

The west is too deep this year for this team to make the playoffs. I know it's early and some may say a knee jerk reaction to the two losses but it's the truth.

We actually went from 1.5 out if 1st overall to 4th in the NW with two losses.

My goals for the rest of the season :
Develop young talent (Burks/Favors/Hayward/Kanter)
Get something in value for Harris and Jefferson via trade
End the season at .500 like I predicted - don't give up and throw in the towel as losing breeds losing
Millsap - keep the guy happy somehow/someway
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And just like that the Jazz, who are in desperate need of a decent wing, may get one in a very deep draft. Actually, what would be funny is if the Jazz were to get the #7 pick, and by doing so, drop GS to #8. Won't happen, because I still think Utah is a .500 team and that should put their pick between 12 and 14.
 
GlassEater said:
And just like that the Jazz, who are in desperate need of a decent wing, may get one in a very deep draft. Actually, what would be funny is if the Jazz were to get the #7 pick, and by doing so, drop GS to #8. Won't happen, because I still think Utah is a .500 team and that should put their pick between 12 and 14.
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That would be awesome though .. meaning if we were to miss the playoffs anyway.
 
The Jazz are a bad team who had a favorable schedule. The good news is losing helps us get better in the long run.
 
Jazz losing but playing hard is the best thing that can happen this season.

I live in San Francisco and watch way more Warriors games than Jazz games, and while the Warriors are an OK team, Mark Jackson is making them a worse team by taking away the run and gun. I understand he is trying to change the culture, but he is ruining this team as far as playing away from their strengths. Which is horrible for the Jazz.

Also if the Jazz make the playoffs doesn't their pick go to Minny?
 
IBProfane said:
Matt...you are correct sir, I see the same thing on ESPN, good catch.
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THE SKY IS FALLING--wait, we're still seeded :D :D :D :D?

(Btw, the Fakers are the eighters, and the Mavs are part of the Haves at 6th. There's some small satisfaction in that.)

I agree that there are fringe benefits to playing hard and still losing. Lately, they jazz haven't been quite proficient enough in either IMHO ... It would be nice to make the playoffs; it would also be nice to have a lottery pick.

It would also be nice to know that players will play hard & smart--and that the coach will coach hard & smart.

I'm not convinced the Corbin did so tonight. It took him until the end of the 3rd quarter to realize that AJ, while scoring big, was sucking otherwise, and that Kanter deserved more than the 12ish minutes that he ended up with.

There's not one combination that clearly stands out to me, because Corbin didn't test them in the first half like an effective coach would. But I still think that Tinsley is being underplayed, and it seems to me that he would've been worth trying on the 6'2" Beaubois or the 6'3" Terry, especially when Raja, Harris, and Watson were iffy in the backcourt. And then there's Kanter ...
 
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The Jazz have played less games than the Lakers and Houston. One win by both teams and the Jazz are a lottery team.
 
orangello said:
The Jazz have played less games than the Lakers and Houston. One win by both teams and the Jazz are a lottery team.
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But right now they are not, and they have a good chance at beating the Sacramento Jimmers. Sure, it's early, and it doesn't matter much, but people are crying doomsday anyway.
 
Meh, I'm just enjoying this season and how it plays out. I expected the Jazz to suck, even with their favorable schedule, and to see them not totally sucking is all I ask for.
 
It's hilarious how easy it is to beat the Jazz.

All you need to do is have the quickest guy on your team run a pick n roll with the guy gaurding Big Al.
The entire defense collapses and the other team gets easy wide open shots

It's nice to know that Kanter and Favors are amazing at pick n roll defense...especially Kanter. He had this one sequence where he ran the gaurd all the way to the baseline. I can't remember how it ended, but when a gaurd runs towards that end he usually passes and the pass is so out of control that it's picked off.
 
I don't know if we'll make the playoffs, but they'll make it a fight. Better teams then we have been on longer losing streaks than 0-2, and they'll still make the playoffs. It's far from over, hyperbole people.

I think we're better than Houston, and I think it's a race between the Clips, Memphis, Lakers and us for who won't get bumped out of the playoffs. And Maybe Portland too. The West is wild, and it's also wide-open, as it stands.
 
It's a win win if you think about it. Going to the playoffs is more interesting for all of us, and would be good experience for the youngins.
If we miss out we get a lottery pick in a deep draft.
 
I always go by the loss column because you can never remove one. Going by the loss column, we are the 4th seed. (We do have a few more games to play than the teams above us but we control our destiny for the 4 seed as of now.
 
There always will be the talk about "winning and aiming at playoffs or tanking and positioning for lottery" -the latter is disgusting for the game and for the fans in my opinion-.

The Jazz should play to win ballgames, play hard and grind it out, and regardless of the results, the attention should still be on developing as a team, not on whether the team can make the playoffs or not. This is the best way to keep a young team focused, responsible, to offer quality -not garbage- PT for development and to get rookies, sophomores to earn PT, to play competitive basketball, to adjust to the next level, to the basketball culture that the Jazz want to sustain.

I'm not that concerned about our playoff chances, yet. Let's see where our team will be at the end of March. Making it to the playoffs would be a huge experience for this young squad. The schedule has been good to us, and will only get tougher and tougher.

I just want the Jazz to build on positives, learn from faults, losses, and take every game seriously in order for youngsters to play competitive basketball.
 
Before the season started, I predicted 25 wins and just hoped to see improvement by the end of the season. I've already seen the latter and hope the prediction is low. To me, the record is immaterial. I just want a good foundation built for the future.
 
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