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Andrei Kirilenko is now a US citizen

Sirkickyass said:
But that requires you to adopt the the perspective of the southerners to answer the question "correctly" under the test. Just because they defined slavery as an "economic issue" rather than a "human rights" issue doesn't mean that a) the war was not fought over slavery and b) that slavery is not a human rights issue.
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There were certainly abolitionists in the North concerned about the human rights issues, but there were also men in the North who didn't want slavery to end because then they would have to fight with the freed slaves for jobs...same concerns are happening with the illegal alien issue.
 
To franklin, lance, and bordelias.
The correct answer to the rights question is still C, as i told you all about 40 posts ago.
Freedom of Expression and Bearing Arms are Rights numbers 1 and 2 in the Bill of Rights.
 
northeast said:
To franklin, lance, and bordelias.
The correct answer to the rights question is still C, as i told you all about 40 posts ago.
Freedom of Expression and Bearing Arms are Rights numbers 1 and 2 in the Bill of Rights.
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To Northeast: I chose to ignore your post because you missed the point and weren't worth responding to. But congratulations, you have my attention this time. If it'll make you feel better and shut up about it then CONGRATULATIONS! YOU GOT ME YOU SMARTY MCSMART PANTS YOU! YOU WERE MORE THAN RIGHT AND DESERVE A GOLD STAR ON YOUR TEST Please mark this post and read it next time you're feeling blue.
 
franklin said:
To Northeast: I chose to ignore your post because you missed the point and weren't worth responding to. But congratulations, you have my attention this time. If it'll make you feel better and shut up about it then CONGRATULATIONS! YOU GOT ME YOU SMARTY MCSMART PANTS YOU! YOU WERE MORE THAN RIGHT AND DESERVE A GOLD STAR ON YOUR TEST Please mark this post and read it next time you're feeling blue.
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To franklin:
1. No , you are the one who missed the point, and my post was worth responding to. You all seemed interested in the topic, so it was logical to assume that at least some of you would want to know why the correct answer was what it was.
3. Franklin, your anger is totally uncalled for. You seem to be overcompensating for your lack of intelligence in an unhealthy manner.
 
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Mr. McGibblets said:
Millsapa said:
Slavery had everything to do with the economy of the South. They really can't be separated.

"Its labor supplies the product which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of the commerce of the earth. . . . A blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization."
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Agreed. Slavery, tariffs, and other reasons all fall under the same economic umbrella. There wasn't a slavery answer option. While slavery is a human rights issue, it was more of an economic issue to the southerners.
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Mr. McGibblets said:
Sirkickyass said:
But that requires you to adopt the the perspective of the southerners to answer the question "correctly" under the test. Just because they defined slavery as an "economic issue" rather than a "human rights" issue doesn't mean that a) the war was not fought over slavery and b) that slavery is not a human rights issue.
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I agree with what you are saying and think you are right. I didn't mean to imply that slavery was not a reason for the war, nor a major reason. I think the South viewed it as more of an economic issue compared to the Northerners who saw it as a human rights issue. I also think the slavery issue increased in importance for the North as the war went on. However, the South initially seceded due to economic issues (which included slavery), not slavery itself. Slavery was still legal at the time the south started the war (but it was facing heavy scrutiny). It was not until midway through the war that Lincoln emancipated the slaves and banned slavery.

While I agree that preserving slavery played a part in the South's secession, I think it was more of an economic issue rather than a human rights issue. I think the question is poorly worded, but the most correct answer is economics not human rights.
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Shouldn't we ask Andrei what he thinks?
 
Millsapa said:
I'm just saying "Northerners" weren't all angels, out to save the slaves, as the prevailing notions seems to suggest.
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Insightful!

You mean to tell me there aren't angels when it comes to war?

Of course not. Every side of every war in the history of mankind did something vile - that's probably why they're the winners.
 
Sean said:
Insightful!

You mean to tell me there aren't angels when it comes to war?

Of course not. Every side of every war in the history of mankind did something vile - that's probably why they're the winners.
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The comments were in context to the question:

12) Name one problem that led to the Civil War.
A. human rights
B. election freedom
C. economic reasons
D. presidential conflicts

Not all "Northerners" were human rights activists, which is one reason I wouldn't pick it were I to take the test.
 
Did you read the question? It's not asking for the most absolute reason for the war, is it?
 
candrew said:
Soooo...AK is a US Citizen
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So he will never look this ridiculous ever again?:

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Apparently he's retaining dual US/Russia citizenship. I guess we can say he's not a "real American."
 
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