Another religious topic......
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You say that as though it's actually relevant in some way.
Forcing their beliefs in what way? Saying "please don't shove your beliefs down our or everyone else's throats"?
It really doesn't matter what I say here, you'll never see the other point of view. At the very least, however, you should have a problem with a group from Texas forcing Utah to do something that not even Utah citizens had a problem with. Why are you OK with Texas citizens leading you around by the short hairs?
To the people that attend those churches I am sure it is completely relevant.
By forcing non-belief on everyone else.
I'm not a big sweets fan. If I am going to eat something I'd rather it be a burger, taco or some other real food.
I've been waiting a long time for one example of this. So I'm issuing a public challenge again right now.
Opposing monuments to the bible doesn't count. Nor does opposing "under god" in the pledge of allegiance, or "in god we trust" on the money. All I or anyone I've ever known have asked is to keep the playing field level, everywhere. If atheists were to do what the religious right are constantly trying to do, they'd be pushing "there is no god" on money and "under whatever" in the pledge of allegiance.
Again, level playing field.
I am really dense or naive to what you're talking about. What are you talking about?
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Well played.
Talking about poop > Scat and numbs argument about atheism > craig's triceps > DutchJazzers boyfriend > Archie's Lexus.
This.
Just like I have a problem with Mormon missionaries thrusting their faith down peoples throats, I can't stand the segment of atheists who feel the need to force their stupid beliefs down mine/ours. Live and let live, FFS.
To miss your point would require you to have much of a point to begin with. Sure, when it comes to religion black Christians are in the majority with the other Christians. When it comes to race they aren't, and they feel like they've been oppressed and use the venue of church to express their grievances. So what, people who feel like they have a beef express their grievances all the time, and many times they do it in an organized manner. In this case blacks use the church. That being said their churches are not significant enough to matter in this country. Nobody is cow towing to the Holy Trinity or whatever church Rev. Wright is the pastor at. He doesn't have an hour long tv show that airs on ABC Family to espouse his nutjob view points like Pat Robertson does.
I don't even know how powerful these guys forming churches like this is. Blacks tend to vote Democrat regardless of religious lines, and probably tend to feel they've been on the short end of the racism stick regardless of religious beliefs. I don't see that changing, though that belief has lessened over time since Jim Crow has went away. The crux of your argument is that these churches shape black beliefs. I don't buy that at all. They are just cashing in on beliefs that blacks have had in this country for decades, and in some instance their beliefs are justifiable though the Rev. Wrights/Jacksons/Sharptons of the world take this much too far.
And yes, the LDS church has a black market for not letting black men be priests before the 70s. IMO only a strong racist would deny that. And I don't give a pass to the black church for their racist views. I've called them a bunch of nubjobs numerous times. The difference is they have no political/cultural/etc. power whatsoever, while the LDS church does, at least out west and particularly in Utah. The Rev. Nutjob's church may have some political clout in South Chicago. Yippee.
asian_roger
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Here's another question: How white would BYU be if there was no athletics whatsoever?
*mine just sayin'
PearlWatson
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Wrong. Our president hails from his church. And these racists are constantly trotted out to pressure us into cow towing to their voting block:
Freudian slip?
I laugh at your denial that the racism (the strong focus on the color of the skin mattering above everything else) emanating from these churches have both a strong political and cultural power, as well as the other things I mentioned: NAACP, Black Caucus (<---gave us the housing crisis), BET. Rev. Wright is only one example of the racists running black churches, but our sitting president IS proof of this clout.
I don't deny the "black mark" I just thought your word choice was interesting considering...
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Does the whole denial of priesthood stem from the skin cursing of Cain/ and or Lamanites? If so then isn't the Judeo Christian God the real racist?
Has their ever been a black pope?
Is it a black mark that Darwiniacs believe blacks are the closest thing to our ape-like ancestors?
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*kowtowing
PearlWatson
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This is amazing, Milsappa. Looks like Archie found the golden calf out in the Sinai last weekend. I'm still working on how this relates to the chip Nate has on his shoulder. I figure this cow probably does gold bricks for "chips". And I'm sure a lot of folks would think they're better than black "chips".
This is profound. We're all still racists in our pick of "chips".
Maybe we would overcome this bias if we were all rounded up and properly re-educated, say by starvation to the point where we would at least pretend to prefer black chips, or be ashamed to talk about, or dream of, yellow ones. It would probably make good public, that is "socialist" policy to get all kinds of political correctness laid out for us in everyday life as well.
This is profound. We're all still racists in our pick of "chips".
Maybe we would overcome this bias if we were all rounded up and properly re-educated, say by starvation to the point where we would at least pretend to prefer black chips, or be ashamed to talk about, or dream of, yellow ones. It would probably make good public, that is "socialist" policy to get all kinds of political correctness laid out for us in everyday life as well.