Another school shooting...

[LogGrad98]

Luckily at this point no loss of life, at least none being reported right now.

https://gma.yahoo.com/school-shooti...-two-193327723--abc-news-topstories.html?vp=1

A suspected school shooter is in custody after opening fire at a middle school and critically injuring at least two teenagers in Roswell, N.M., according to police.
There were preliminary reports of injury, according to New Mexico State Police, however a spokesman said the extent, including the number of possible victims, was unknown.

 

[TroutBum]

That's it. Time to take away all guns and melt them into statues of Obama.

 

[Beantown]

Time for teachers to pack heat. If a shooter knows they are all packing he's not going in there.

 

[fishonjazz]

Time for teachers to pack heat. If a shooter knows they are all packing he's not going in there.

Sometimes the shooter is suicidal and hoping to get shot so i dont know if it would be a huge detterent.

It could still make the number of victims less though. On the other hand maybe a teacher shooting at the shooter might hit some innocents accidentally and actually escalate things in a negative way

 

[dodo]

Time for teachers to pack heat. If a shooter knows they are all packing he's not going in there.

Nonsense. Almost all of the recent mass shooters have been suicidal and either taken their own life or shot by police while rampaging. Having unqualified individuals carry lethal weapons around our kids is not the solution.

 

[Beantown]

Sometimes the shooter is suicidal and hoping to get shot so i dont know if it would be a huge detterent

It could still make the number of victims less though. On the other hand maybe a teacher shooting at the shooter might hit some innocents accidentally and actually escalate things in a negative way

They want to cause the most damage and that's why a lot of them choose schools. An example is if the Sandy Hook office had guns they could have taken out that douche bag before he ever got to the classrooms.

Also most shooters want to end their own lives on their own terms. So as soon as police or anyone engages them they usually just off themselves. They don't want to give anyone the satisfaction of them getting killed.

 

[LogGrad98]

Nonsense. Almost all of the recent mass shooters have been suicidal and either taken their own life or shot by police while rampaging. Having unqualified individuals carry lethal weapons around our kids is not the solution.

Who said anything about unqualified? I don't think the aim would be to pass out 9's when they get their teaching certificate but to have them allowed go through the training and process to get an open or concealed carry permit, as allowed by their state. I don't think that would necessarily be a bad idea, at least worth thinking about.

 

[Beantown]

Nonsense. Almost all of the recent mass shooters have been suicidal and either taken their own life or shot by police while rampaging. Having unqualified individuals carry lethal weapons around our kids is not the solution.

read my previous post.

 

[LogGrad98]

Either that or have a policeman hired to work at every school everywhere as a deterrent. Although the expense would probably nix that.

 

[fishonjazz]

They want to cause the most damage and that's why a lot of them choose schools. An example is if the Sandy Hook office had guns they could have taken out that douche bag before he ever got to the classrooms.

Also most shooters want to end their own lives on their own terms. So as soon as police or anyone engages them they usually just off themselves. They don't want to give anyone the satisfaction of them getting killed.

Good point

 

[Beantown]

The same can be said for pilots carrying guns. I am happy they are now allowed to carry guns. It makes me feel safer on a flight. Having this done before 9/11 would have easily foiled that plot.

 

[Beantown]

Either that or have a policeman hired to work at every school everywhere as a deterrent. Although the expense would probably nix that.

This is also a good idea, I think most parents would choose to just have one less teacher in order to afford that.

 

[mellow]

I'm just thinking out loud here....

What are doing wrong raising kids today? People want to make the issue guns, but I figure that the percentage of the population that has ready access to guns is about the same today as it was 20 years ago, and probably less than it was 50 or 100 years ago. So why is mass shooting prevalent today?

It's not like there weren't bullies 20 years ago or 50, heck I figure as long as the earth has had at least two men on it there has probably been a bully of sorts.

And why shoot up other kids? Why not adults, or why not shoot up the school building as a symbol of an institution that they feel has wronged them?

These kids have everything they could ever need and most things they could want and it is not enough. Why?

I just don't get it.

 

[dodo]

Who said anything about unqualified? I don't think the aim would be to pass out 9's when they get their teaching certificate but to have them allowed go through the training and process to get an open or concealed carry permit, as allowed by their state. I don't think that would necessarily be a bad idea, at least worth thinking about.

Everyone that drives on the road has passed the driver's test, and yet a lot drive like idiots sometimes. Extrapolate this to guns... I'd rather have the schools employ armed security personnel than arming the teachers.

 

[fishonjazz]

I'm just thinking out loud here....

What are doing wrong raising kids today? People want to make the issue guns, but I figure that the percentage of the population that has ready access to guns is about the same today as it was 20 years ago, and probably less than it was 50 or 100 years ago. So why is mass shooting prevalent today?

It's not like there weren't bullies 20 years ago or 50, heck I figure as long as the earth has had at least two men on it there has probably been a bully of sorts.

And why shoot up other kids? Why not adults, or why not shoot up the school building as a symbol of an institution that they feel has wronged them?

These kids have everything they could ever need and most things they could want and it is not enough. Why?

I just don't get it.

Kids these days!

That all i got.... i dont understand it either.
Maybe its because they have so much in todays society and so spoiled that they think that everything should be perfect and cant handle dissappointment

 

[TroutBum]

They want to cause the most damage and that's why a lot of them choose schools. An example is if the Sandy Hook office had guns they could have taken out that douche bag before he ever got to the classrooms.

Also most shooters want to end their own lives on their own terms. So as soon as police or anyone engages them they usually just off themselves. They don't want to give anyone the satisfaction of them getting killed.

Wow, anecdotal evidence at its finest. I'm going to assume you're not a psychologist studying the field of school shootings, right? Everything you just said there was pure conjecture, not worth wiping a baby's *** with.

Good point

It was a horrible point. It wasn't a point at all, actually.

The same can be said for pilots carrying guns. I am happy they are now allowed to carry guns. It makes me feel safer on a flight. Having this done before 9/11 would have easily foiled that plot.

Right. I don't know about you, but when I'm 30,000 feet in the air in a pressurized metal coffin, I am reassured knowing that someone is on board with a gun that can blow a good sized hole into said coffin. I'm sure we'll all make it out alive at that point. Hooray for little 02 baggies that fall from the ceiling! Give them a tazer and call it a day. Guns are for morons, yo. (just like rap)

This is also a good idea, I think most parents would choose to just have one less teacher in order to afford that.

Haha, wow. I would bet half my Kingdom that not even 10% of Utahns would choose that option.

 

[Beantown]

I'm just thinking out loud here....

What are doing wrong raising kids today? People want to make the issue guns, but I figure that the percentage of the population that has ready access to guns is about the same today as it was 20 years ago, and probably less than it was 50 or 100 years ago. So why is mass shooting prevalent today?

It's not like there weren't bullies 20 years ago or 50, heck I figure as long as the earth has had at least two men on it there has probably been a bully of sorts.

And why shoot up other kids? Why not adults, or why not shoot up the school building as a symbol of an institution that they feel has wronged them?

These kids have everything they could ever need and most things they could want and it is not enough. Why?

I just don't get it.

Some people won't like my "religious" response or whatever but it really isn't religious. It plain and simple to me. Its breakdown of family relationships. Constant divorce, parental fighting, just plain and simple lazy and ****ty parents.

You will be hard pressed to find a violent child that comes from a loving family with two supportive parents.

 

[TroutBum]

Some people won't like my "religious" response or whatever but it really isn't religious. It plain and simple to me. Its breakdown of family relationships. Constant divorce, parental fighting, just plain and simple lazy and ****ty parents.

You will be hard pressed to find a violent child that comes from a loving family with two supportive parents.

I was so "hard pressed" that it was the very first link on teh Google: https://news.yahoo.com/neighbors-says-nev-school-shooter-had-good-family-193720638.html

Again, conjecture and stupidity. Why not do a little research before typing, or better yet, just don't post?

 

[Beantown]

I was so "hard pressed" that it was the very first link on teh Google: https://news.yahoo.com/neighbors-says-nev-school-shooter-had-good-family-193720638.html

Again, conjecture and stupidity. Why not do a little research before typing, or better yet, just don't post?

Lol how dumb are you? Your source is that "the neighbor said they "seemed like a nice family". Nobody has any idea what goes on in the walls of a home.

 

[dodo]

BTW how about "the other" shooting, the one in Tampa. "A good guy with a gun" eh? Arm everyone with guns and situations like this are more likely to happen.