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Ante Tomic

Morris Almond will do very well to stay in Europe and re-learn that basketball is a team sport first. If he keeps his head up, I see no reason he can't return as a nice player.

As far as Splitter goes, I doubt he ever plays in the NBA unless the new CBA somehow allows the Spurs to circumvent 1st rounder rookie pay scale. He's the cautionary tale of drafting overseas players in the 1st round.
 
Part of it might be the different lane they have. It provides a bit different spacing dimensions on both offense and defense.
 
NUMBERICA said:
As far as Splitter goes, I doubt he ever plays in the NBA unless the new CBA somehow allows the Spurs to circumvent 1st rounder rookie pay scale. He's the cautionary tale of drafting overseas players in the 1st round.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that 1st rounders are no longer subject to rookie pay scales after 3 seasons from when they were drafted. I remember someone from ESPN doing a story that Rubio will only come to the NBA after the 2011 season because he would no longer be bound by the rookie pay scale.
 
https://www.marca.com/2010/06/02/ba...9a56a39c955430aa99d6c27b0e56da08&t=1275523924

Ante Tomic vuelve a ser noticia en Estados Unidos. El pívot, cuyos derechos en la NBA pertenecen a los Utah Jazz, ha sido una de las grandes revelaciones de la ACB y en Utah están pendientes de sus evoluciones.

El jugador tiene una cláusula que dificulta una hipotética marcha a la NBA, pero el 'general manager' del equipo, Kevin O'Connor, ha hablado del pívot croata ante un supuesto interés de otras franquicias por hacerse con sus derechos.

Preguntado por un posible traspaso, O'Connor no cierra ninguna puerta. "Si sirve para mejorar nuestro equipo, consideraríamos cualquier posibilidad", explicó en el local 'Deseret News'.

Los Timberwolves, de ruta por Europa
La presencia de Kurt Rambis y David Kahn, entrenador y 'general manager' de los Timberwolves, ha disparado la rumorología en todo el continente. Según publica la prensa serbia, esta semana han presenciado en directo un partido del Estrella Roja para seguir en directo a Nemanja Bjelica.

Bjelica, un alero que también está en la agenda del Regal Barça, es elegible automáticamente en el próximo 'Draft' y su nombre aparece en las previsiones como posible segunda ronda.

La opción de Tomic, apuntada por algunos medios, se antoja improbable ya que los Timberwolves ya poseen los derechos de otros dos pívots en Europa: Nikola Pekovic y Henk Norel.
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If anyone wants me to translate that, I'll do it a bit later.
 
It just talks about how other teams are interested in Tomic's rights, and that Utah is considering trading him "if it makes the team better". Also it mentions something about a clause that would let Tomic come to the NBA. Mentions the Wolves as most interested team.
 
KrazeeEyezKilla said:
I have a legit question for anyone who knows more than me (which is next to nothing) about international play. Whenever I look at these Euro's stats, they don't impress. I think they play more team ball with less isolations and the stars get less PT than say a star in the NBA as far as minutes per game. But I can never help but feel underwhelmed when looking at any of the prospective big's rebounding and blocked shots numbers. Is there a reason? Is there no shot clock or one greater than 24 seconds, and thus less possessions per game? Are the numbers simply a reflection of the style of play?
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I am not an expert but my first guess is this is because in NBA there are approx. 80 field goal attempts per game while in Europe it's around 56. So you can easily multiply european stats by 1.45 with minimal error.
This will make Tomic's correlated stats look like 30pts, 9.5 reb and 3 blocks per 40 mins in 2009-10 season
Which makes his projected NBA starter stats look like 22 pts, 7.1 reb and 2 blocks per game assuming he plays 30 mins.
 
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The first thing to tell you that I am Spanish and live in Madrid.
I am fan of the Jazz from 1989 after the All Star of Houston and read this forum always but almost I do not write, because my English level is too low ( sorry :( )
With regard to Tomic I will try to give my opinion, asking pardon if something don´t understand correctly
I believe that just now for our team the important thing is that He growing very much in his game and starting being clearly one of 4 or 5 players more importants and quoted for nba that exists in Europe
Probably it is not that we need but it just now is not the important thing, too much young and player basically offensive, But He is a great value for us
Tomic after play in his country comes a few months ago to Real Madrid
Real Madrid is the club with more titles and more power and with more money of the world sport (for his soccer team certainly, Cristiano Ronaldo's signing only they were 96 million dollars, without counting his salary for example...)
In basketball Real Madrid has spent this year approximately 40 million Euros, Almost as an Nba team (Olympiakos with Linas Kleiza, Josh Childress, Teodosic, Papaloukas, Schorchianitis probably approximately 50 millions )
Tomic has been since He comes to Real Madrid the first offensive reference (his trainer Ettore Messina is the best of Europe probably and it will improve very much with him) even with his problems with fouls
His explosion like player I come in the Euroleague Quarterfinals versus F.C. Barcelona.
Against the best team in Europe this year ( Barcelona win the title massacring Olympiacos in an great exhibition of Ricky Rubio, Fran Vazquez and Juan Carlos Navarro ) and with all pressure on him Ante Tomic lead the team and look very well
His statistics and especially the sensations were spectaculars in this playoffs, since then it is normal that all the scouts in nba you put his eyes in Ante Tomic... Because out of Ricky Rubio (another level of player) Ante is probably the player's major project of Europe (for nba)
Jan Vesely ( young Czech, Kirilenko type of player ) probably will be top ten in 2011 draft but Ante is a major project in my opinion

In this moment R.M. and Tomic has playing the semi-finals of the Spanish league ( the best in Europe ) against Cajalaboral (also one team of Elite 8 of Europe this year ) in nice and close battle opposite to Tiago Splitter probably the Europe's best center of last 3 years ( It is said that Spurs next year... Tiago is more important and more star for Brasil that Varejao o Nene Hilario, of course Fiba basketball it´s different... )

A greeting and I´m sorry that my english's level is not better :rolleyes::rolleyes:

GO JAZZ
 
Thanks for the insight, always good to get some local info on overseas prospects. Don't worry about your English, your post was perfectly understandable :)
 
stockcillo12 said:
The first thing to tell you that I am Spanish and live in Madrid.
I am fan of the Jazz from 1989 after the All Star of Houston and read this forum always but almost I do not write, because my English level is too low ( sorry :( )
With regard to Tomic I will try to give my opinion, asking pardon if something don´t understand correctly
I believe that just now for our team the important thing is that He growing very much in his game and starting being clearly one of 4 or 5 players more importants and quoted for nba that exists in Europe
Probably it is not that we need but it just now is not the important thing, too much young and player basically offensive, But He is a great value for us
Tomic after play in his country comes a few months ago to Real Madrid
Real Madrid is the club with more titles and more power and with more money of the world sport (for his soccer team certainly, Cristiano Ronaldo's signing only they were 96 million dollars, without counting his salary for example...)
In basketball Real Madrid has spent this year approximately 40 million Euros, Almost as an Nba team (Olympiakos with Linas Kleiza, Josh Childress, Teodosic, Papaloukas, Schorchianitis probably approximately 50 millions )
Tomic has been since He comes to Real Madrid the first offensive reference (his trainer Ettore Messina is the best of Europe probably and it will improve very much with him) even with his problems with fouls
His explosion like player I come in the Euroleague Quarterfinals versus F.C. Barcelona.
Against the best team in Europe this year ( Barcelona win the title massacring Olympiacos in an great exhibition of Ricky Rubio, Fran Vazquez and Juan Carlos Navarro ) and with all pressure on him Ante Tomic lead the team and look very well
His statistics and especially the sensations were spectaculars in this playoffs, since then it is normal that all the scouts in nba you put his eyes in Ante Tomic... Because out of Ricky Rubio (another level of player) Ante is probably the player's major project of Europe (for nba)
Jan Vesely ( young Czech, Kirilenko type of player ) probably will be top ten in 2011 draft but Ante is a major project in my opinion

In this moment R.M. and Tomic has playing the semi-finals of the Spanish league ( the best in Europe ) against Cajalaboral (also one team of Elite 8 of Europe this year ) in nice and close battle opposite to Tiago Splitter probably the Europe's best center of last 3 years ( It is said that Spurs next year... Tiago is more important and more star for Brasil that Varejao o Nene Hilario, of course Fiba basketball it´s different... )

A greeting and I´m sorry that my english's level is not better :rolleyes::rolleyes:

GO JAZZ
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I don't speak Japanese!!!!!
 
Uh...Splitter isn't exactly a defensive beast (certainly not a shot blocker, anyway). Tomic will get eaten alive by NBA athletes (unless he suddenly develops NBA 3 point range). If he were younger (he's almost 23), I'd have some hope for him putting on weight/muscle, but I wouldn't count on it at this point. When you further consider that he's getting most of his touches with his back to the basket on the low block, his strength/weight becomes an even bigger issue when matched up against NBA bigs. If the Jazz can move him for something of decent value, that would be best.

Can you name one rail thin low post offensive player that has found success in the NBA?
 
TICC said:
Uh...Splitter isn't exactly a defensive beast (certainly not a shot blocker, anyway). Tomic will get eaten alive by NBA athletes (unless he suddenly develops NBA 3 point range). If he were younger (he's almost 23), I'd have some hope for him putting on weight/muscle, but I wouldn't count on it at this point. When you further consider that he's getting most of his touches with his back to the basket on the low block, his strength/weight becomes an even bigger issue when matched up against NBA bigs. If the Jazz can move him for something of decent value, that would be best.

Can you name one rail thin low post offensive player that has found success in the NBA?
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Pau Gasol?
 
The guy doesn't seem to get up and down the court too quickly either. Awkward.
 
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