Anti vaxxer mom asks for advised how to protect kid from measles...responses are hilarious!

[One Brow]

Why do we even allow religious or philosophical exemptions? That doesn’t seem right to me. Putting society at risk of severe harm or death isn’t a right. At some point in our country knowledge and expertise need to matter more than stubborn stupidity.

Because these people have money and vote.

 

[MVP]

At some point in our country knowledge and expertise need to matter more than stubborn stupidity.

You can apply this to gun laws from 18th century as well.

 

[bigb]

You can apply this to gun laws from 18th century as well.

Why do you have to ruin a perfectly good thread?
That’s a stupid argument.

 

[MVP]

Why do you have to ruin a perfectly good thread?
That’s a stupid argument.

Right, I forgot we are talking about USA.

 

[fishonjazz]

I have a question.
If my daughter has been vaccinated then i dont need to worry about other kids around her being unvaccinated right? If she is vaccinated then she cant contract the disease right? Or is that wrong?


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[One Brow]

I have a question.
If my daughter has been vaccinated then i dont need to worry about other kids around her being unvaccinated right? If she is vaccinated then she cant contract the disease right? Or is that wrong?

Most of the time, that is correct. Every vaccine has a failure rate, where the person does not get immunized.

 

[fishonjazz]

Most of the time, that is correct. Every vaccine has a failure rate, where the person does not get immunized.

Thank you

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[Jazz Traveler]

I was vaccinated as a kid for the measles and still caught the measles. It’s a serious disease. I was very sick. Wouldn’t wish it on anybody.

 

[The Thriller]

Thank you

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But some diseases need boosters. The Tdap is one of them (it gives immunity against three diseases) . You probably had it as a kid but might need the booster now as an teen/adult. It’s becoming pretty common now that school districts will see an outbreak of diseases like whooping due to kids not being vaccinated or adults needing the booster.

You can find your vaccination record either through your doctor or your county’s health office.

I did that a few years ago and they sent me a copy of my vaccination record real fast.

 

[Harambe]

Fair to note that although unlikely, you can have an allergic reaction to ingredients of a vaccine. Including what you're being vaccinated against.

My mom mentioned to me a few times that after receiving one specific round of my vaccines, I became very ill. She never could remember which vaccine it was, and therefore simply wasn't specific about it. Years ago, my current employer(healthcare) informed me I needed the Tdap booster. As I don't remember a vaccine making me ill(only being told about it offhandedly when I was younger), I didn't give it much thought. This was a mistake. Less than 24 hours after that booster I developed reactions to it. Fever, sweats, swelling of the lymph nodes, difficulty breathing, exhaustion... pretty much everything you ever could want less of. Probably enough to get me admitted, had I went to an ER.

A quick round of tests later, and I learn that I am allergic to Tetanus toxoids. I discussed this with my mother, and she then recalled that was "the one" I had a reaction to. She also knew that she was allergic to tetanus, but never made the connection to the vaccine I was given, or that perhaps one of her five children might have received this defect from her. So there's your mommy issues for the year.

Being allergic to Tetanus toxoids is not quite as scary as an adult working in an office environment. But recalling a childhood playing in a field littered with old building materials and rusted nails makes me wonder how I made it to adulthood.

 

[infection]

I have a question.
If my daughter has been vaccinated then i dont need to worry about other kids around her being unvaccinated right? If she is vaccinated then she cant contract the disease right? Or is that wrong?


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As mentioned by OB, you can always get something despite a vaccination. A number of people still get the flu despite vaccination, however, it's important to consider that it may often be less intense because of a partial immunity. Also, a lot of people say they got the flu despite a flu shot because most people are under the impression that the flu is a GI illness.

 

[babe]

Yeah the anti vaxxer ******** is one of the worst movements there is. Talk about monumentally clueless. They are nearly as idiotic as anyone who believes or buys anything from Gwyneth Paltrow, who is literally the least self aware and person most disconnected from reality in the history of the world.

I dispute your claim here. You don't know Gwyneth. Siro said I hold the title.

For the record, I had the measles, along with I think whatever siblings. It's a good gene pool cleanse. yah, some people.... one in five thousand or so, die from it. But the vaccine will kill about one in 100,000. Seldom reported..... like Dems who do college skits with makeup or whatever. Unless it's politically useful, of course. You just never know about immunocompetentence until you challenge it, and there's always some people who won't make it. genetic issues, those who are in any way affected will likely experience serious illness from other causes as well. And of course, seriously immunologically incompetent babes die off in the big bad world full of germs and viruses pretty early, unless you are willing to make bubble babes outta them.

In the old days, before vaccines, we didn't have overpopulation and philosophical problems with useless eaters, either. Now Bill and Oprah are desperate to reduce world population to a sustainable level of.... oh.... a "village" outside their palaces.

On the other hand, why should we have public schools anyway. We can program robots to do the menial chores for the smartarses who wanna rule the world. Deweys "train to the task" educational philosophy will be an anachronism in fifteen years.

and hell yeah. one of my daughters was seriously ill from getting the MMR. I worked for three years in research labs where I made experimental vaccines. Yah.... the prof was top in his field, the head of the pathology dept, and I was the graduate student, so what the hell do I know. I got sick from his cigar smoke he blew in my face when he reviewed my work or gave me assignments. I mean, seriously. I had to quit, just like about three other lab jobs I had for a while. That's why I hang out at the ranch, where my health is much improved.

vaccines could be cleaned up a lot, but it's pretty cost-prohibitive, so we have to accept pretty much the whole media used to batch it up. It's always gonna be a cost/benefit equation with some level of comparative risks. I question the "research" that definitively denies all possibilities of side effects or downstream impacts we just have not imagined, let alone understood. But the benefits for most are pretty clear, and we should immunize against many viral and bacterial pathogens. Just no need to get indignant about those who have concerns.

commies who want governments to decide everything are just so damn annoying to ordinary people..... I guess the world will always have utopian dreamers with no good sense, but sometimes they get real jobs and become useful, given a decade or two. It's the ones who are still believers after age 40 who need to be taken to special institutional care facilities, where it might be possible to convince them that human choices are not always an "existential catastrophe" to some well-intended government program.

 

[babe]

Fair to note that although unlikely, you can have an allergic reaction to ingredients of a vaccine. Including what you're being vaccinated against.

My mom mentioned to me a few times that after receiving one specific round of my vaccines, I became very ill. She never could remember which vaccine it was, and therefore simply wasn't specific about it. Years ago, my current employer(healthcare) informed me I needed the Tdap booster. As I don't remember a vaccine making me ill(only being told about it offhandedly when I was younger), I didn't give it much thought. This was a mistake. Less than 24 hours after that booster I developed reactions to it. Fever, sweats, swelling of the lymph nodes, difficulty breathing, exhaustion... pretty much everything you ever could want less of. Probably enough to get me admitted, had I went to an ER.

A quick round of tests later, and I learn that I am allergic to Tetanus toxoids. I discussed this with my mother, and she then recalled that was "the one" I had a reaction to. She also knew that she was allergic to tetanus, but never made the connection to the vaccine I was given, or that perhaps one of her five children might have received this defect from her. So there's your mommy issues for the year.

Being allergic to Tetanus toxoids is not quite as scary as an adult working in an office environment. But recalling a childhood playing in a field littered with old building materials and rusted nails makes me wonder how I made it to adulthood.

This is why medical exemptions are a necessity, and why we need professional medical personnel who are trained to deal with such things on hand where vaccines are given. This is likely not something of genetic inheritance but immunologically transmitted mother to son. Not all children will react the same. Junk in the barnyard likely is not as serious as the shot, you might not have noticed a slight reaction to a weak dose of allergen.

My daughter's mom has reacted to a vaccination when she was not yet a mom, and that could be why one of her daughters had her reaction.