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franklin

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What's wrong with these jackasses? Can you imagine antibiotic free people? I don't get the organic movement. It reminds me of those old ladies in the 1960's who refused oxygen tanks because they weren't natural.



*sorry for posting in the wrong forum
 
You are aware that the over use of antibiotics reduces their effectiveness.
Also there are people that are allergic to antibiotics and even if it doesn't kill them, it will surely make life miserable for a time.

Crazy people, trying to avoid things that are harmful.
Foolz

*not sorry
 
I agree... Kanter's a bitch yo.
 
Triangle Man said:
You are aware that the over use of antibiotics reduces their effectiveness.
Also there are people that are allergic to antibiotics and even if it doesn't kill them, it will surely make life miserable for a time.

Crazy people, trying to avoid things that are harmful.
Foolz

*not sorry
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You mean I should have put a caveat for people allergic to tree nuts not eating walnuts? My bad.
 
Farmers have been feeding antibiotics to livestock because "it makes them bigger for some reason", and now we have serious problems with superbugs booming in pretty much every hospital in North America.

Couple that with allergies (as has been mentioned earlier), and with the overwhelming amount of info thats trickling out over the past two years regarding the importance of maintaining any organism's micro biome, and you're left with the conclusion that antibiotics in the meat we eat is a pretty bad idea.
 
The fact that pumping meat with antibiotics is a bad idea is not controversial.
 
dalamon said:
Farmers have been feeding antibiotics to livestock because "it makes them bigger for some reason", and now we have serious problems with superbugs booming in pretty much every hospital in North America.
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Now?


And yeah, the superbugs infecting humans are the same strains infecting other creatures. Because our immune systems are teh same as a dog's or a snake's.
 
franklin said:
Now?


And yeah, the superbugs infecting humans are the same strains infecting other creatures. Because our immune systems are teh same as a dog's or a snake's.
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While they aren't the same we both have B-cells, T-cells etc. A lot of immune system is even studied on fruit flies.

You realize there are strains of influenza that can infect humans, ducks, and pigs. The same bacteria that gives humans leprosy can be given to armadillos and vice versa, and it goes on and on. Even ebola is thought to have come from bats. In fact, most diseases that ONLY infect humans are some of the easiest to cure because they cannot be carried by another animal.
 
franklin said:
Now?
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Yes, now. VRE cases first emerged in the 80s. MRSA emerged in the 60s. Bugs with antibiotic resistance are only now becoming a huge problem recently.


And yeah, the superbugs infecting humans are the same strains infecting other creatures. Because our immune systems are teh same as a dog's or a snake's.
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No one is arguing the contrary-- the widespread treatment/prescribing of antibiotics across society creates an environment where the virulence plasmids of these typically-safe strains are being heavily amplified. Vancomycin-resistance only became widespread because of the widespread use of vancomycin when its use often wasn't necessary. Same goes with s. aureus, and when people rampantly prescribed methicillin. This is consensus agreement across all microbioligists-- we really ****ed up as a society.
 
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dalamon said:
Yes, now. VRE cases first emerged in the 80s. MRSA emerged in the 60s. Bugs with antibiotic resistance are only now becoming a huge problem recently.




No one is arguing the contrary-- the widespread treatment/prescribing of antibiotics across society creates an environment where the virulence plasmids of these typically-safe strains are being heavily amplified. Vancomycin-resistance only became widespread because of the widespread use of vancomycin when its use often wasn't necessary. Same goes with s. aureus, and when people rampantly prescribed methicillin. This is consensus agreement across all microbioligists-- we really ****ed up as a society.
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Superbugs taking time to become a problem is because of cattle. Got it. It couldn't be the natural course of species getting stronger or anything.

I also get a kick out of those who think over prescribing penicillin to a 7 billion person population is going to create super bugs but prescribing penicillin to a 7 billion person population won't. **** statistics.
 
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