any centers better than Gobert right now?

[Stifle Tower]

nowhere near the best center. However .. overrated ?? Ask his coach how valuable he is. How well did the W's do without his anchoring the paint last year ? If Bogut isn't healthy they can't win the finals.

I think that's overstating his value. If Curry isn't healthy, the W's probably can't win. Bogut? Sure he's a nice piece, but he can be replaced and the W's still win. Not as easily, but they still win.

 

[LogGrad98]

Marc Gasol is the best pure C in the NBA and it's not close. If AD is playing C, then he is as well. Probably Dwight Howard also.

Let's not get too ahead of ourselves.

For the record, I would trade Gobert for AD straight up. I would think hard about trading him for Gasol but would probably do it. And I would not trade Gobert for Howard. There is the reality of it.

Now stop peeing in our cheerios.

 

[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

I think that's overstating his value. If Curry isn't healthy, the W's probably can't win. Bogut? Sure he's a nice piece, but he can be replaced and the W's still win. Not as easily, but they still win.

I remember watching sportscenter and they showed the team defensive #'s with and without Bogut. It's like a 5-6 point swing. He is very valuable not sure GS has the interior defensive fire power to deal with LBJ and Cle's bigs without Bogut. In my eyes he's one of the better defensive bigs in the league and he has a lot to do with GS HAVING THE #1 defense in the league last year.

 

[♪alt13]

Straight up, I'd rank Davis ahead of Gobert...for now.

But you are right, Gobert has the attitude and fire that makes EVERYONE around him better. Look at the way Favors has come around and is blocking shots. Hayward plays with intensity; Exum is playing tough defense. Why? Because they know if they don't, Rudy is going to get on them. Really not sure if Gobert or Snyder is the best thing that's happened to this franchise in the past two years. I just know those two are the KEYS to our success going forward.

Favors was basically guarding 2 positions playing next to Kanter. He deserves more credit than he gets. Favors was always a very good defender but he couldn't afford to gamble because it would have led to an easy drop off pass for a layup due to others regularly blowing their assignments. Does Gobert make Favors better? Yes, but equally so Favors makes Gobert better.

 

[Stoked]

Good mentions of Howard.

 

[Stoked]

I know he's not very popular around here, but Cousins is probably the best C in the NBA today...

Davis is a PF in my eyes at least

What stops Cousins from being the best C is himself. He will always limit himself.

 

[fishonjazz]

I think marc gasol is better all around right now...... But not for long.

I would trade gobert for AD...... And then be really ****ing scared that I would end up regretting it

 

[SLCHooper]

not sure who is better than Gobert right now??

A.Davis: maybe....more of a PF than C in my opinion

DJ: a center who has better FG% than FT%..hm...no

Marc Gasol: a white stiff who can't jump and slow feet..hm...no

Pau Gasol: an euro who has passed his prime.. hm.. no

Joahim: a center who has more rebounds than points..hm... no

Drummond: a center who has more rebounds than points..

Duncan: too old, Gobert will block every shot he takes

DeAndre Jordan: Overall Better than Rudy

Marc Gasol: Overall Better than Rudy

Dwight Howard: Overall Better than Rudy

Al Horford: Overall Better than Rudy




I think Rudy could be a top 3 Center someday but the fact is, he is entering into his 3rd season (2nd year of playing consistently). It will take some time for him to become more consistent on the offensive side.

This is not a "hater" post. I'm just trying to not be bias because I'm a Jazz fan.

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

DeAndre Jordan: Overall Better than Rudy

Marc Gasol: Overall Better than Rudy

Dwight Howard: Overall Better than Rudy

Al Horford: Overall Better than Rudy




I think Rudy could be a top 3 Center someday but the fact is, he is entering into his 3rd season (2nd year of playing consistently). It will take some time for him to become more consistent on the offensive side.

This is not a "hater" post. I'm just trying to not be bias because I'm a Jazz fan.

So would you trade him for any one of them?

 

[Stifle Tower]

I remember watching sportscenter and they showed the team defensive #'s with and without Bogut. It's like a 5-6 point swing. He is very valuable not sure GS has the interior defensive fire power to deal with LBJ and Cle's bigs without Bogut. In my eyes he's one of the better defensive bigs in the league and he has a lot to do with GS HAVING THE #1 defense in the league last year.

Even at 5-6 pts., that's not a big deal given GS' offense. I doubt GS would lose 4 games by less than 5 against CLE. I do admit Bogut did a helluva job holding and setting illegal screens on AD. It was disgusting the refs let so much go. But GS would have won that series regardless. The only hope one has against GS is that 2 of Curry, Thompson and Green have terrible nights.

I'm not saying Bogut doesn't make that team better; he does. He's just not essential to their overall success.

 

[fishonjazz]

He's just not essential to their overall success.

I disagree with you because to win a championship you need to be firing on all cylinders for the most part. Winning championships is hard. I think he is essential to thier success.

Though i would say that curry, green, and thompson are definately more essential.

 

[RandyForRubio]

Straight up, I'd rank Davis ahead of Gobert...for now.

But you are right, Gobert has the attitude and fire that makes EVERYONE around him better. Look at the way Favors has come around and is blocking shots. Hayward plays with intensity; Exum is playing tough defense. Why? Because they know if they don't, Rudy is going to get on them. Really not sure if Gobert or Snyder is the best thing that's happened to this franchise in the past two years. I just know those two are the KEYS to our success going forward.

What do you mean 'for now'?

You think Rudy will be better?

Look, I love Rudy. He's a great defensive player. He is not, nor will he ever be as good as Anthony Davis.

Davis is 22 years old, and he's averaging 24/10/2/3. What makes you think he's not going to improve?

I get that Rudy is our guy and everything, but let's be a little objective. He's still a limited offensive player, and he's definitely not the best center in the league right now.

 

[fishonjazz]

What do you mean 'for now'?

You think Rudy will be better?

Look, I love Rudy. He's a great defensive player. He is not, nor will he ever be as good as Anthony Davis.

Davis is 22 years old, and he's averaging 24/10/2/3. What makes you think he's not going to improve?

I get that Rudy is our guy and everything, but let's be a little objective. He's still a limited offensive player, and he's definitely not the best center in the league right now.

Pretty good post.
Davis might be one of the best players of all time when is said and done

 

[Jeffrey32]

Gobert is probably top 10, which is amazing for a player who was tripping over his feet and could have been blown over with a feather two years ago.

 

[Cappy_Smurf]

Gobert is probably top 10, .

I'd say he's easily top 5. His defensive presence impacts the game to a degree that I'm not sure I'd trade him for some of the guys who are better because they're 2 way players. I'd rather keep Rudy and get our offense elsewhere.

 

[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

Even at 5-6 pts., that's not a big deal given GS' offense. I doubt GS would lose 4 games by less than 5 against CLE. I do admit Bogut did a helluva job holding and setting illegal screens on AD. It was disgusting the refs let so much go. But GS would have won that series regardless. The only hope one has against GS is that 2 of Curry, Thompson and Green have terrible nights.

I'm not saying Bogut doesn't make that team better; he does. He's just not essential to their overall success.

5-6 points is huge. GS gives up over 100 points per 48 without and under 100 with him. Without Bogut for an extended amount of time the GS defense would wear down and their perimeter defense would look closer to average. LBJ would destroy there defense without Bogut. How the hell is 5-6 points in your eyes not a big swing?


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[Cappy_Smurf]

He obviously is overrated if people put his name into the damn best centers in the league discussion.

Disagree. When healthy, he definitely belongs in that discussion. Having that defensive anchor at center is key to having one of the best defenses in the league.

 

[karl malone]

No, Gobert is not currently the best all-around Center in the NBA right now (although he may be top 5 already & definitely has the potential to be so some day). He is, however, probably the best defensive Center currently in the league & has all-time great potential on that side of the ball. His offense is what is holding him back from having that title right now & if he ever becomes at least average in that department one day, he probably will lay claim to that title. As of right this moment though, as far as all-around game goes, Davis (if you consider him a C), M.Gasol, Howard, & Cousins are all probably currently better than him. I fully expect that to change in the very near future tho.

 

[Stifle Tower]

What do you mean 'for now'?

You think Rudy will be better?

Look, I love Rudy. He's a great defensive player. He is not, nor will he ever be as good as Anthony Davis.

Davis is 22 years old, and he's averaging 24/10/2/3. What makes you think he's not going to improve?

I get that Rudy is our guy and everything, but let's be a little objective. He's still a limited offensive player, and he's definitely not the best center in the league right now.

Hey, I'm a homer. I see Gobert completely change games defensively. AD gets his numbers, but teams don't simply refuse to go into the paint. Gobert is going to come back with a 3PT shot next season. Don't ever doubt the Stifle Tower!

Seriously, I agree he might be top-5 right now just based upon his defense. But just an average offensive game will vault him right up there.

 

[RandyForRubio]

Hey, I'm a homer. I see Gobert completely change games defensively. AD gets his numbers, but teams don't simply refuse to go into the paint. Gobert is going to come back with a 3PT shot next season. Don't ever doubt the Stifle Tower!

Seriously, I agree he might be top-5 right now just based upon his defense. But just an average offensive game will vault him right up there.

I imagine if Davis wasn't relied upon on offense as much as he is (for valid reason), his defensive numbers would improve. Hard to be excellent on both ends, but he's damn close. Special player for sure.