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Appropriate Age for a Gun?

bigb said:
There's a difference in not believing in it and not allowing someone else to do it. When you say "infinity", or comes across that you don't think anybody should ever have a gun of any kind. I personally don't believe in smoking, but I recognize others do and I support their right and ability to do so responsibly.
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I do support everybody's rights to do it whatever they want as long as it's in accordance with each country's Laws. Apologies if it came across otherwise.


For me though, with how I've been brought up, and where I am in the world, I personally don't see the need in introducing a child to guns.


In another place, another time, that would probably change though.
 
ONE LOVE said:
I do support everybody's rights to do it whatever they want as long as it's in accordance with each country's Laws. Apologies if it came across otherwise.


For me though, with how I've been brought up, and where I am in the world, I personally don't see the need in introducing a child to guns.


In another place, another time, that would probably change though.
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I think it's just a case of having the confidence in being able to expose them to it in a controlled environment where they learn to do everything the right way, rather than picking it up themselves one day when they are older. I mean in this particular example, there seems to be little doubt they will be around guns all throughout growing up, regardless of whether they get their own one now.
 
fgcamel said:
I think it's just a case of having the confidence in being able to expose them to it in a controlled environment where they learn to do everything the right way, rather than picking it up themselves one day when they are older. I mean in this particular example, there seems to be little doubt they will be around guns all throughout growing up, regardless of whether they get their own one now.
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Ah ok, yes in this example as it relates to a child in the US. I was just surprised with your response from a NZ perspective, is all.
 
ONE LOVE said:
Ah ok, yes in this example as it relates to a child in the US. I was just surprised with your response from a NZ perspective, is all.
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Lol fair enough, it's like apples and oranges comparing guns in nz and the US. I think they are still more popular here than you think though. It's just that you'd never ever see one in a city.
 
I heard a statistic that toddlers killed more Americans this year than Muslims.
 
fishonjazz said:
I heard a statistic that toddlers killed more Americans this year than Muslims.
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Difference is obviously an issue of intent. But it is a frustrating statistic as there are so many irresponsible gun owners.

It is evidence, though, that we completely fear terrorist attack all out of proportion to their actual numbers. How many people fear being killed by a toddler?

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♪alt13 said:
I think that proper gun training can teach a child responsibility, humility, respect, and awareness in a way that few other activities can match.
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Any way to quantify or prove this statement?? There's tons of countries out there with kids who never have access to guns-- so you can start with a comparison there
 
JazzGal said:
My brother is a proud multi-gun owner and mentioned today he is thinking of getting his 5-year-old daughter a BB gun for Christmas. This seems too young to me. What's your experience/opinion?

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Absolutely ridiculous and idiotic for parent to even think about it. Nobody in sane mind should ever consider that.

See what happened here when 5 year old got his first gun as birthday gift.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2013/05/01/my-first-rifle-kid-shot/2126431/
 
MVP said:
Absolutely ridiculous and idiotic for parent to even think about it. Nobody in sane mind should ever consider that.
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Too much of a blanket statement imo.

I think I had a gun at that age. Nothing bad came from it.
 
fishonjazz said:
Too much of a blanket statement imo.

I think I had a gun at that age. Nothing bad came from it.
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You are lucky. Sister of that 5 year old could still be alive today. I believe her dad regrets that decision every day for the rest of his miserable life. And how would that boy look back at family pictures later in life and try to process the thought of him missing a sister due to most irresponsible and absolutely unnecessary decision by his dad to buy a stupid gun?
 
ONE LOVE said:
I do support everybody's rights to do it whatever they want as long as it's in accordance with each country's Laws. Apologies if it came across otherwise.


For me though, with how I've been brought up, and where I am in the world, I personally don't see the need in introducing a child to guns.


In another place, another time, that would probably change though.
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fgcamel said:
I think it's just a case of having the confidence in being able to expose them to it in a controlled environment where they learn to do everything the right way, rather than picking it up themselves one day when they are older. I mean in this particular example, there seems to be little doubt they will be around guns all throughout growing up, regardless of whether they get their own one now.
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My kids (especially my boys) are curious about guns. My it's our American lifestyle. I don't think so. I've always kept mine locked up in an out of the way spot where they don't see them. Like they don't even know they're looking at where they're locked up. I don't want cop shows or shoot'em up shows around them. And yet both my 6 year old daughter and 5 year old son knew it was a gun the first time my shirt lifted up and they say my handgun sticking out of the holster. Remember, it was nothing more than the grip and end of the slide they saw.
I'd much rather introduce them to find and teach them how they work, the damage they do, how to handle them, and what to do if they find one than have them be curious and pick one up not knowing what they're doing.
 
Generally speaking you Americans have sick fetish towards the guns. It's like addiction, you guys are doomed and can't be cured.
 
I don't understand the necessity of guns outside of hunting. Hunting is dope and ethical and (in many cases, when government-regulated) pretty good for biodiversity.

This whole "walk-to-the-grocery-store-with-a-gun-in-your-holster" is simply pure insanity to me. I seriously don't get it, you guys.
 
MVP said:
You are lucky. Sister of that 5 year old could still be alive today. I believe her dad regrets that decision every day for the rest of his miserable life. And how would that boy look back at family pictures later in life and try to process the thought of him missing a sister due to most irresponsible and absolutely unnecessary decision by his dad to buy a stupid gun?
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The decision to buy the gun was not stupid. The act of leaving it where a five year old could get it, especially while loaded, was stupid (to say the least). Big difference.
 
bigb said:
There may be a lot of truth in that.
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MVP said:
Generally speaking you Americans have sick fetish towards the guns. It's like addiction, you guys are doomed and can't be cured.
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bigb said:
My kids (especially my boys) are curious about guns. My it's our American lifestyle. I don't think so. I've always kept mine locked up in an out of the way spot where they don't see them. Like they don't even know they're looking at where they're locked up. I don't want cop shows or shoot'em up shows around them. And yet both my 6 year old daughter and 5 year old son knew it was a gun the first time my shirt lifted up and they say my handgun sticking out of the holster. Remember, it was nothing more than the grip and end of the slide they saw.
I'd much rather introduce them to find and teach them how they work, the damage they do, how to handle them, and what to do if they find one than have them be curious and pick one up not knowing what they're doing.
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I agree with all of these.

If you don't teach your kids about guns at an early age then, since we live in America, there is a decent chance your kid will be around a gun at some point and I would prefer my child have some knowledge and respect in regards to guns in that situation.
 
bigb said:
The decision to buy the gun was not stupid. The act of leaving it where a five year old could get it, especially while loaded, was stupid (to say the least). Big difference.
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Only American would think that buying a gun as birthday gift for 5 year old is not insane. Sorry would never ever agree with that.
 
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