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Are the Jazz Tanking the 2022-23 Season?

Are the Jazz in Tank mode or Win Now mode?

  • Yes - Ainge clearly isn't making "win now" moves so the tank is on!

    Votes: 27 39.1%

  • No - The Utah Jazz don't tank! We just haven't seen how the offseason has played out yet.

    Votes: 5 7.2%

  • No one knows yet, not even the Jazz - options are open

    Votes: 37 53.6%
  • Total voters
    69
  • Poll closed .
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Sure, not impossible, but he isn't going to make it. Anthony Edwards will likely replace as be now has the Gobert boost Mitchell benefited from. KD might come West so that's another spot gone.
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I agree that Ant probably will take a spot, but there's also Wiggins, who I'm not sure will repeat. And CP3, and Draymond/Dejounte (he's gone East, so he won't be a problem).
 
I really hope we tank. Already have a great amount of picks going forward. A great talent pool at the top of the 2023 draft. Mitchell is unlikable. Mitchell will likely bolt in three years anyway. Maybe we won’t get $1.00 for $1.00, especially compared to the Hobert haul. But if we got 80 cents on the dollar, we need to ****ing do it.
 
jom2003 said:
Yeah but unfortunately this current roster is just not built to play defense without Rudy. Not sure the acquisition of Vanderbilt and Beverly is enough to change that
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Q system broke up for it ended up playing a marred scheme with RG trying to anchor the other guys playing 4 on 5 perimeter D.
You do not get away with such a scheme with Jazz personnel. I guess if anyone go and watch footage it will be so pretty darn obvious.
I'm good trying to return to the basic 5 on 5 and to go from there.
We'll see what happens.
 
outerspacefan said:
The path is to make Don a 33 points, 3 steals per game and trade him later. The cult reloaded.
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If he is averaging 33 per game then we should definitely keep him. Pretty much nobody averages that mich per game whether on a team trying to win or a tanking team.


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fishonjazz said:
If he is averaging 33 per game then we should definitely keep him. Pretty much nobody averages that mich per game whether on a team trying to win or a tanking team.
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I know, I know. It's just 33 and 3 sounds kind of esoteric, magic, worth of cult.
Of course the canon and common sense says you don't trade a 33 ppg dude in his mid twenties.
 
LoPo said:
We have enough talent to be a .500 team.

Rudy and Royce are better than Beverley, Beasley, Vanderbilt nd a rookie for sure, but we aren't going to lose 20 more games than last year just with that change. Also add in that Rudy Gay should actually be used this year.



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I think you are underestimating the improvement of the west. Lets not forget that last years team was a below .500 team the last 44 games of the year. Even if we had kept Rudy I think we would have been a below .500 team. As it stands right now though this is how I see the west.

1. Clippers
2. Warriors
3. Nuggets
4. Griz
5. Suns
6. Wolves
7. Pelicans
8. Lakers
9. Mavs
10. Blazers
11. Kings
12. Jazz
13. Thunder
14, Spurs
15. Rockets

That should put us firmly in that top 7 to 8 of the lottery and a definite chance to jump into the top 3. If Mitchell goes down at all for an extended period of time during the season though we could easily be in the bottom 2 of the west. We can tank without even necessarily trying to tank during the 1st half of the season because the west is so damn tough which makes resting guys the 2nd half of the season real easy.
 
Elizah Huge said:
Probably so, but this one has the best prospect since LeBron and best PG prospect since Rose.
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Dude. Kid is super skinny and much more unproven than say Doncic who was dominating FAR more and against grown men in the best league in Europe.

We’ve had Dwight, Towns and Anthony Davis since Lebron. It is far from. Foregone conclusion that the kid will ever become even close to as good as those guys. My money is on no.
 
Keefe said:
Dude. Kid is super skinny and much more unproven than say Doncic who was dominating FAR more and against grown men in the best league in Europe.

We’ve had Dwight, Towns and Anthony Davis since Lebron. It is far from. Foregone conclusion that the kid will ever become even close to as good as those guys. My money is on no.
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You know Wemby plays against grown men too right?

Luka’s per 36 his last year before declaring for the draft:

19.2 PPG, 8.5 RPG, 7.5 APG, 0.6 BPG, 1.7 SPG

Wemby’s per 36 this year (has one more year before declaring for the draft):

18.4 PPG, 10 RPG, 1.5 APG, 3.5 BPG, 1.7 SPG

For someone who is 7’3 and has this type of defensive presence while also being able to stretch the floor and shoot from 3 is just unheard of.

I also said the best prospect not a guarantee of anything.
 
Elizah Huge said:
You know Wemby plays against grown men too right?

Luka’s per 36 his last year before declaring for the draft:

19.2 PPG, 8.5 RPG, 7.5 APG, 0.6 BPG, 1.7 SPG

Wemby’s per 36 this year (has one more year before declaring for the draft):

18.4 PPG, 10 RPG, 1.5 APG, 3.5 BPG, 1.7 SPG

For someone who is 7’3 and has this type of defensive presence while also being able to stretch the floor and shoot from 3 is just unheard of.

I also said the best prospect not a guarantee of anything.
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Okay, let me say it for the second time. One was doing it in the best league. Doncic was a euro league mvp, a euro league champion, a euro league final four mvp. And playing more minutes in doing so at 25 minutes per his last season and 20 the year prior.

Wemby has played 16-18 minutes a game the last two years in a far inferior league without all the accolades and awards that Doncic had.

As far as prospects, he’s really not the best prospect either imo. Davis was. Davis, if healthy, could’ve gone down as a top 25 player ever. He’s that good when healthy. He’s just never healthy.
 
Tanking no idea. Fishing yes. FO wanted the biggest catch in return. They want no less than 1st round picks and/or defensive players. They installed a new young coach. If we do well, FO will be labelled as brilliant. If we go south, blame the coach.
 
Keefe said:
Okay, let me say it for the second time. One was doing it in the best league. Doncic was a euro league mvp, a euro league champion, a euro league final four mvp. And playing more minutes in doing so at 25 minutes per his last season and 20 the year prior.

Wemby has played 16-18 minutes a game the last two years in a far inferior league without all the accolades and awards that Doncic had.

As far as prospects, he’s really not the best prospect either imo. Davis was. Davis, if healthy, could’ve gone down as a top 25 player ever. He’s that good when healthy. He’s just never healthy.
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I agree with you about Davis.
 
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