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Awards show on TNT Monday June 25 9pm ET Discussion

Siro said:
I think it should be at the end of the regular season, right before the start of the playoffs.
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The NBA schedule is absolutely stupid sometimes. In my opinion, it should go...

NBA Finals
The Monday following the Finals - this awards show
The Friday of the awards show week, all player decision deadlines due (team and player options)
The Monday following the awards show, the Moratorium for a week
Following the Moratorium, free agency begins on a Monday
That Thursday, hold the draft

I think it's kind of stupid that teams have to select their draft picks before they know if their current players are staying or going. Also, it would be nice to have a couple days of free agency before the draft. If draft pick spots had cap holds, teams might be more willing to trade picks if it means they can sign free agents earlier in the week. So teams who spend away in free agency might have to forgo draft picks. Could lead to more insanity.

And for the love of all that is holy, NBA - please fix the stupid draft picks wearing the hat of the team they definitely aren't going to. If a trade is confirmed, let the rookie wear the hat of the team he is actually drafted by.

Just my more than two cents....
 
LoPo said:
The NBA schedule is absolutely stupid sometimes. In my opinion, it should go...

NBA Finals
The Monday following the Finals - this awards show
The Friday of the awards show week, all player decision deadlines due (team and player options)
The Monday following the awards show, the Moratorium for a week
Following the Moratorium, free agency begins on a Monday
That Thursday, hold the draft

I think it's kind of stupid that teams have to select their draft picks before they know if their current players are staying or going. Also, it would be nice to have a couple days of free agency before the draft. If draft pick spots had cap holds, teams might be more willing to trade picks if it means they can sign free agents earlier in the week. So teams who spend away in free agency might have to forgo draft picks. Could lead to more insanity.

And for the love of all that is holy, NBA - please fix the stupid draft picks wearing the hat of the team they definitely aren't going to. If a trade is confirmed, let the rookie wear the hat of the team he is actually drafted by.

Just my more than two cents....
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So I’m certain circumstances, players and teams would have less than a week to decide to opt in or out.

Dumb.
 
Simmons has it locked up, votes were made months ago.

If everyone had to vote today I think Mitchell would win. If that makes anyone feel better.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
So I’m certain circumstances, players and teams would have less than a week to decide to opt in or out.

Dumb.
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The players and teams would have all season to decide if they want to opt in or opt out. The only difference between now and my suggestion is having the draft after the opt out decisions. You think franchises and players are making these decisions simply off of the NBA draft?

Dumb comment.
 
Rudy is pretty much the run away DPOY at this point. Snyder stands a fair chance because he got such a push towards the end of the regular season. Stevens may win and would be deserving. Simmons will probably win ROTY, but I'd vote Mitchell any day of the week over him. Not so much because I'm a Jazz fan, but because I think he's had a greater impact on the Jazz than Simmons had on the 6'ers.
 
The writers are voting for Simmons because they had already made up their mind at the beginning of the season. The players knew better. But then they voted before the playoffs.
 
Jazz are going to sweep this and then the narrative is going to switch to Jazz are overhyped and then Jazz are going to be hated again.
 
You guys know they schedule this stuff to continue to stay relevant year round... it's basically genius... Playoffs, Finals, Draft, Stupid show, Free Agency, Summer League, brief pause for 2 months... training camp, season.
 
I think the draft needs to stay before free agency. But I get it...sometimes it would be helpful to know which free agents you are keeping or getting so you can draft accordingly. But the reverse is also true. With Allen being drafted, Utah likely looks for a 4 or combo forward in free agency, not a SG.

As for the awards, Stevens eserves COY. Boston had a ton of injuries in the regular season, and Kyrie went down for the playoffs. Still they made it to the EC Finals. My second choice would be Casey. Best record in East. The knock is that he gets outcoached in the playoffs. But this is a regular season award. It's tough because Quin also did a helluva job.

No doubt Gobert deserves DPOY.

As for rookie, I have to give the nod to Simmons. He averaged nearly a triple double. He knows his limitations and wont chuck from 3pt range. Donovan was just too inefficient. He's exciting for sure and is becoming a mega star, but in all honesty, even though I hope he wins, I just think Simmons had a slightly better season, by the narrowest of margins. TBH, I'm hoping for a tie.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
You guys know they schedule this stuff to continue to stay relevant year round... it's basically genius... Playoffs, Finals, Draft, Stupid show, Free Agency, Summer League, brief pause for 2 months... training camp, season.
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And almost every year there is a FIBA World Cup or FIBA Euro Championship or Olympics to watch in the 2 months there is no NBA-related events.
 
stitches said:
And almost every year there is a FIBA World Cup or FIBA Euro Championship or Olympics to watch in the 2 months there is no NBA-related events.
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NBA is much smarter and progressive than other leagues... capturing dollars and market share because of it.
 
Snyder deserves COY. We lose our #1 scorer to the other COY candidate and still get to the second round of the playoffs. COY.

Rudy will likely win as well but it's not a lock.

DM deserves ROY. I think him winning every other ROY is proof people don't view nor want Simmons as ROY. Though the silver lining is if Simmons wins it will simply make Mitchell work harder. Then he can win MVP next season and laugh at the fact Simmons can't hit a three.

The fact we have a candidate for three categories shows us DL knows what's up; I am telling myself that in lieu of the recent draft.
 
LoPo said:
The NBA schedule is absolutely stupid sometimes. In my opinion, it should go...

NBA Finals
The Monday following the Finals - this awards show
The Friday of the awards show week, all player decision deadlines due (team and player options)
The Monday following the awards show, the Moratorium for a week
Following the Moratorium, free agency begins on a Monday
That Thursday, hold the draft

I think it's kind of stupid that teams have to select their draft picks before they know if their current players are staying or going. Also, it would be nice to have a couple days of free agency before the draft. If draft pick spots had cap holds, teams might be more willing to trade picks if it means they can sign free agents earlier in the week. So teams who spend away in free agency might have to forgo draft picks. Could lead to more insanity.

And for the love of all that is holy, NBA - please fix the stupid draft picks wearing the hat of the team they definitely aren't going to. If a trade is confirmed, let the rookie wear the hat of the team he is actually drafted by.

Just my more than two cents....
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The award show should definitely happen before the playoffs since those aren't taken into account for the awards. It's dumb to have the awards come out after any playoff games have happened since those change everyone's opinions.

Or change the awards to take into account the playoffs or add playoff awards behind finals mvp.
 
Piso said:
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Anyone who quotes FG% when comparing two players like Simmons vs Mitchell completely loses my respect. It's already the most worthless stat in basketball, and is made even more worthless when comparing player A who didn't take a single 3 pt shot with player B who broke the rookie records for number of 3 pointers taken and number of 3 pointers made.
 
Ron Mexico said:
The award show should definitely happen before the playoffs since those aren't taken into account for the awards. It's dumb to have the awards come out after any playoff games have happened since those change everyone's opinions.

Or change the awards to take into account the playoffs or add playoff awards behind finals mvp.
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I agree completely. Either (a) move to before playoffs, (b) include playoff performances in voting, or (c) move to before plays and also have separate playoff awards.
 
DM has an amazing season, won 4 rookie of the month awards, won the ROY award from the players, and won the dunk contest. The kid had an amazing season. I’d love for him to win it, it’s not going to happen, and despite any knock anyone wants to make on him, Simmons is a great player who also had a great season especially statistically.

Whether Donovan wins this or not, it was great for his brand. Wtf cared about ROY until this season? Donovan won either way. The dude has got as much press as any player in the league, and win or lose he’s going to get plenty tonight.

Another thing he’s done in the last month is put himself in front of and among the media that votes for these awards. He will benefit from that going forward. And to whoever asked above, yes Steven A. and Max got to vote.

Also, he may as well add to his list of awards, and take this away from Simmons. Click on the link and vote for Donovan for the ESPY award

http://www.espn.com/espys/story/_/page/voting52/vote-best-sports
 
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