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Back when AK-47 was playing with Stockton and Malone...

And you have been a jazz fan how long? Malone was nothing but a 45% ineffecient jump shooter his last two years here - layups came few and far between for him. They were not fun years, we knew a 1st round exit was more assured back then than now.

...I was a Jazz fan when you head was the size of a grape! Malone was making layups in large quantities when Klinko was a rookie on the team! ALL Stockton/Malone years were fun years...regardless of the first round exits....because they played a "watchable" game and always gave 100%....unlike today's NBA clowns who are readily admitting almost every day now, that they dog it on many occasions!
 
Every Jazz fan needs to pray for AK's revival every night, Or else you might as well go become a laker fan.

Yes, Kirilenko's closer to a martyr, or at least fan favorite, on this board rather than an object of scorn. Boozer took far more crap. Hell, so has Karl Malone, even in this very thread. The attachment to this sack of **** borders on the worshipful, standardized by the very selfsame lack of standards underlying his conduct.

Nothing is ever his fault, all out of his hands. It's Sloan's fault that Kirilenko has never had fundamental offensive skills that a high-level offensive system can be built around or run through; just as it was the fault of Williams and Boozer that they squeezed Kirilenko out by having these abilities.

Isn't it telling that Kirilenko's best work is being reminisced about, and it came about with him as a role player under two 40 year old superstars? When was it ever better? Oh, right, when Kirilenko was leading the Jazz...to the lottery.

All that, matched with a max deal. The gift that keeps on giving. Few players have ever done as little, relative to expectation. None have been so teflon as to be seen as the hapless victim of their own lack; none except this idiot.

Kirilenko is the perfect Russian, in a communistic sense. In a capitalistic standardization, he's an example of what a disaster free trade can be.
 
AK is a wiser man, now. He should be, of course. He's probably read 400-500 insightful russian novels in the locker room alone since then, ya know?
 
Yes, Kirilenko's closer to a martyr, or at least fan favorite, on this board rather than an object of scorn. Boozer took far more crap.

Speaking personally and completely emotionally, I feel that I will see 50 Boozer's before I see another AK. The last time I saw AK in person, it was a vintage performance.

https://sports.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=300219009

I'm pretty sure that's as close as he's come to his 5X5 days in recent memory. The Jazz were frankly sort of playing in a funk in that game (Deron sucked). Boozer was terrific, but he didn't inspire anything. AK was like watching a happy puppy learning to play fetch for the first time. When AK feels good and plays well it's like watching a sporting event turn into ballet. He was everywhere all at the same time and involved in every play, causing chaos on one end and moving the ball so fluidly around the court on the other that it felt like you were watching some kind of music being played through motion. For a relatively meaningless regular season game in February, that was all I ever could have asked for. I got my money's worth from him alone. Everything Fesenko related was just a bonus. That's a feeling I have never gotten even from much better players, and that has its own intrinsic value at least to me.

I understand his contract has been an anchor on the franchise and he never lived up to what we thought he could be, but at the end of the day I'm glad he was ours. I hope he retires with us, warts and all.
 
Speaking personally and completely emotionally, I feel that I will see 50 Boozer's before I see another AK. The last time I saw AK in person, it was a vintage performance.

https://sports.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=300219009

I'm pretty sure that's as close as he's come to his 5X5 days in recent memory. The Jazz were frankly sort of playing in a funk in that game (Deron sucked). Boozer was terrific, but he didn't inspire anything. AK was like watching a happy puppy learning to play fetch for the first time. When AK feels good and plays well it's like watching a sporting event turn into ballet. He was everywhere all at the same time and involved in every play, causing chaos on one end and moving the ball so fluidly around the court on the other that it felt like you were watching some kind of music being played through motion. For a relatively meaningless regular season game in February, that was all I ever could have asked for. I got my money's worth from him alone. Everything Fesenko related was just a bonus. That's a feeling I have never gotten even from much better players, and that has its own intrinsic value at least to me.

I understand his contract has been an anchor on the franchise and he never lived up to what we thought he could be, but at the end of the day I'm glad he was ours. I hope he retires with us, warts and all.

Reputation given.
 
i don't think AK is a martyr, except with a small population of posters (that includes myself). most jf posters seem to think he's overpaid, washed up, and will never amount to anything close to his 2004 self. yes, boozer has caught more flak, but that's only because the vast majority of jazz followers (online and otherwise) just totally disregard AK these days.
 
i don't think AK is a martyr, except with a small population of posters (that includes myself). most jf posters seem to think he's overpaid, washed up, and will never amount to anything close to his 2004 self. yes, boozer has caught more flak, but that's only because the vast majority of jazz followers (online and otherwise) just totally disregard AK these days.

I'm sorry but he's given us virtually no reason to think he will ever amount to anything close to 2004. Admittedly, he did have his run last year before his injury but I have little to no faith in him. I suppose this year will be his final analysis.
 
further proving my point that AK is no martyr to jazzfanz. he is pretty close to persona non grata, which is said given how much he could change this team if he were given a consistent, meaningful role.
 
AK has all the potential in the world, but nothing resembling a heart. Boozer at least has something that resembles a heart.
 
The biggest question about AK is his health. I think he cares about every game he plays and he loves the game. I think he is also genuine and very likeable. His versatility is unmatched and he can put up stats that very few players have. If he is healthy, I don't want him on another team.

He wants to be here and lucky us if he keeps his word and works out a smaller deal with the Jazz to stay in Utah until it is time to retire.

I am a big fan...
 
AK has all the potential in the world, but nothing resembling a heart. Boozer at least has something that resembles a heart.
LOL to use Boozer as an example of someone with a pseudo-heart. "Regardless."

I don't see where pushing teammates out of the way and camping under the basket to pad RB stats fall under the moniker of having a heart.

I do see where AK's loving Utah and loving the game--even though it's dotted with some pouting--can.
 
The biggest question about AK is his health. I think he cares about every game he plays and he loves the game. I think he is also genuine and very likeable. His versatility is unmatched and he can put up stats that very few players have. If he is healthy, I don't want him on another team.

He wants to be here and lucky us if he keeps his word and works out a smaller deal with the Jazz to stay in Utah until it is time to retire.

I am a big fan...

that's it, if he could stay healthy I don't think that many people would have a beef with ak. last season he helped us a lot when he's out on the court but he was not there when we need him the most.
 
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