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Best Utah Jazz starting 5 of all-time

Ron Mexico said:
Why?

His defense wouldn't be great at SG but it wasn't great at SF. He did play SG at times. His offense would be great in today's game at that spot. He can get by guys and out physical them. He is also only 6'5". That's short against many SFs these days.
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Hmmm a sg that can’t shoot not athletic and slow and one dimensional offensive player and big Al like black hole
 
Thee jazz fan said:
Hmmm a sg that can’t shoot not athletic and slow and one dimensional offensive player and big Al like black hole
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Lol, because those things are okay at SF but not at SG. He would be fine with 4 shooters around him. He also was not a black hole he had okay assist numbers. I would not call him unathletic and slow nor would I call him one dimensional. He could score in a lot of ways. But even if he is those things a high level scorer is a great 6th man. That is exactly what most teams look for as a 6th man.

Also AD could shoot the ball very well. He was an excellent mid range jump shooter. The 3 point line wasnt that important back then so I think if he played today he could have possibly extended to the 3. But even if not it still helps to be a good mid range jump shooter.
 
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12 Man Active Roster-
Guards: John, Pistol, DWill, Mitchell
Wings: AD, Hayward, AK47, Ingles
Bigs: Malone, Gobert, Okur, Millsap

Starting 5-
John
Pistol
Hayward
Malone
Gobert

It is strange to say this, but looking at the starting 5 I would be most concerned with Stockton and Malone. John I worry about his height and ability to switch on defense, as a result, I expect Dwill would get a lot of run on certain match ups. With Malone I worry about how he would clog the paint. This could be mitigated by playing him with Okur, or moving him to center to play with Millsap. Mitchell would be a great off the bench scorer. I am not old enough to have watched AD play so I don't know how he would fit. Looking at his stats, he seems like a better number one option than Hayward, but I don't think he would be as good of a glue guy/jack of all trades as Hayward. It was hard to decide between Boozer and Millsap, but in the end I thought Millsap was more rounded and would fit better. Also, I didn't include Eaton (which hurt) because I already have enough bigs and I worry how his defense would hold in this version of the NBA.
 
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Ron Mexico said:
Mitchell
Hayward
Malone
Gobert

I don't like Hayward but he is better than AK. Plus he is a good shooter. I
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They only thing Hayward is better then AK is shooting. Prime AK is so much better then Hayward in rebounding and defense that that shooting advantage is nullified. I take prime AK over Hayward any day.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
No such thing as a prime AK. He was too busy WoWing to bother himself with reaching prime AK status.
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The irrational hate towards one of the most unique and universal players to ever play for the Jazz is stupid. If you are saying he did not reach his full potential because he relied on talent alone and did not work hard enough, fine, I can agree on that. But even with his unfulfilled potential he is the best fit for that all time starting 5.
 
MVP said:
The irrational hate towards one of the most unique and universal players to ever play for the Jazz is stupid. If you are saying he did not reach his full potential because he relied on talent alone and did not work hard enough, fine, I can agree on that. But even with his unfulfilled potential he is the best fit for that all time starting 5.
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No he’s not. He sucked.
 
checkbookdoc said:
There is a good chance the current Warrior's starting 5 is better than the Jazz's all-time :(
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No, just no. Warriors have no one that can deal with Malone. I don’t care what any of you idiots say, Stockton would destroy Curry. Mitchell is already better then Thompson. Hell, the current jazz will win 60+ this coming year. **** the Warriors we destroyed them 3 games to one this last year
 
Thee jazz fan said:
No, just no. Warriors have no one that can deal with Malone. I don’t care what any of you idiots say, Stockton would destroy Curry. Mitchell is already better then Thompson. Hell, the current jazz will win 60+ this coming year. **** the Warriors we destroyed them 3 games to one this last year
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Draymond could deal with Malone and it wouldn’t matter because Malone would just miss key free throws when it matters anyway.
 
MVP said:
The irrational hate towards one of the most unique and universal players to ever play for the Jazz is stupid. If you are saying he did not reach his full potential because he relied on talent alone and did not work hard enough, fine, I can agree on that. But even with his unfulfilled potential he is the best fit for that all time starting 5.
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Possibly, but I still wouldnt want prime AK as my SF with a Malone/Gobert front-court. You need the shooting from Hayward.

If this was just about putting the best players out there, Dantley would be over both of them.
 
idestroyedthetoilet said:
The Eaton underrating here is stupid.



Replace Gobert with Eaton in his prime today and you would have to start an argument about DPOY that woruld start with Eaton and end with Eaton. He had better offensive skill as well with that sky hook, but credit Stockton a lot for his feeds. Check that insane dish after the near turnover in the video.

Eaton could perform in today's NBA every bit as good as Gobert, if not better because of weight. He was a freaking wall and had great instincts.

As much as I like Gobert, I'm taking prime Eaton.
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This video was a perfect example why it was much easier to block shots in the 80’s and 90’s. Several of his help blocks came on post up moves and he was able to help because his man was set up on the other post for hell sakes. Today his man would’ve been set up at the 3 point line


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The current Warriors are great, but they aren't beating:

PG Stockton
SG Pistol/Mitchell
SF Dantley
PF Malone
C Gobert/Eaton

Fully healthy this year, we destroyed them twice. And all due respect to Favors and Rubio, but Stockton and Malone are much better.
 
Thee jazz fan said:
No, just no. Warriors have no one that can deal with Malone. I don’t care what any of you idiots say, Stockton would destroy Curry. Mitchell is already better then Thompson. Hell, the current jazz will win 60+ this coming year. **** the Warriors we destroyed them 3 games to one this last year
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At first I thought this was an actual take. It wasn't until I saw the last two sentences that I got the sarcasm. lol
 
MVP said:
They only thing Hayward is better then AK is shooting. Prime AK is so much better then Hayward in rebounding and defense that that shooting advantage is nullified. I take prime AK over Hayward any day.
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I disagree with that. I think Hayward is and was better at a lot of things over AK. The only thing AK is definitely better at is being an elite help defender and maybe rebounding. But his man defense was good but not great most of the time. Its hard to compare though because Prime AK was 22, he got worse every year after that. Hayward is a better passer, he has better handle, he is a much better shooter, he is a better driver, he scored better at the rim, and turned the ball over less despite handling the ball way more.

We also got to see Hayward be pretty good in the playoffs. AK in the playoffs was nothing special since his only good couple years they missed the playoffs. Hayward best playoffs was 24ppg, 6 boards and 3.4 assists. AK best playoffs was 11 ppg, 5 boards and 2 assists. Those are not really comparable numbers.
 
PG: Stockton
SG: Pistol
SF: AK
PF: Malone
C: Gobert

Bench: Eaton, BRuss, Dantley, Mitchell, Rubio (based on how I think his impact will be), Hayward, Griffith.
Injured Reserve: Hornacek, DWill.

I give Eaton a ton of credit, but I think Gobert is just as good and will be better. Mitchell I can't put over Pete yet, but give it some time. To me, prime AK47 > Hayward. Simply put, AK didn't need the ball to affect the game. He was an All-star as well, so the rest is pretty much a wash.
 
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