Big Al's new name should be Selfish Al
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LunaticWolf
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Reminds me of when Boozer would have a great game and jazzfanz would try to spin it against him.
Its just funny to be honest.
Its just funny to be honest.
Fishsticks
Banned
How many times was he triple or double teamed and still forced up a bad shot? This **** will work on a team like the hornets sans Gordon, but his play is unacceptable . He MUST learn to read defenses or he is a lost cause.
He made some difficult shots tonight, but in the long run he'll miss them way more often than not. It's just encouraging a horrible style of offense.
He also missed plenty of easy shots in the first half. His shot is slightly off so far and he'll have plenty of stretches where these fall a lot. Ditto for Millsap.
Good job. All of you.
Let's stop for a minute with the no passing jungle chanting and actually discuss what's going on on the floor. First of all, Big Al reposted several times last night, just like all you have been asking for. Second, the Jazz don't flex right for Al to get passing opportunities. He has his back to a four man wall and Corbin keeps calling the low block plays for him. Teams are playing this old Jazz play very well as you'd expect, and the Jazz aren't reacting appropriately to counter.
They are learning though. In the first half Jazz executed one play to swing the ball to an open Hayward in the corner. It required Hayward to time his entry pass and run through, and for the other three players to make the appropriate adjustments at the correct times. Hayward missed the shot but the opportunity was there. Also, defense was scrambling to cover four shooters which resulted in an offensive rebound.
Another point to consider is AJ's excellent ability to take a double team from a smaller defender and still get a high quality shot off. He's incredible at faking out two guys at once and then getting that push shot off. He's a deadly weapon when it falls and extremely obnoxious when it doesn't.
candrew
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When your starting wings shoot a combined 1 for 5 for the game and the opposing team starts off the second half on a 11-3 run, you score points any way you can.
And maybe we should be encouraging Bell and Hayward to get better rather than worrying about the master plan not working because Jefferson has a 12 point quarter.
Many here are congratulating Big Slow for a great game, especially the third quarter. Individually he did have a great quarter. Yet the Jazz lost the lead during the time he was scoring so much.
This seemed to be the pattern last year. When he went on a tear last year and had several 30 point games, the Jazz were getting killed. I don't claim to fully understand it but it seems true: when he gets great stats, the team does not do well. Too one dimensional, too slow, no passing, offense kiiler.
This seemed to be the pattern last year. When he went on a tear last year and had several 30 point games, the Jazz were getting killed. I don't claim to fully understand it but it seems true: when he gets great stats, the team does not do well. Too one dimensional, too slow, no passing, offense kiiler.
BluesRocker
Banned
Did anyone hear Al Jefferson in the post game interview?
Oddly enough he sounded like he gets it. He talked about how he doesn't think the offense should be ran through him so much. And he knows the offense gets stagnant when it is going through him a lot.
So I don't get it. He even knows what the problem is with the offense is. So why is it still happening that way?
If Al Jefferson took less shots and learned the pick and roll scheme on offense and defense. Then he would be a welcomed commodity on this team. Maybe it will happen. He sounds like he is willing to move in that direction. But I don't understand why he is still throwing up a ton of shots. He is 2nd in the league in shot per game, per 48 min. That's not a good thing. Especially when we are trying to develop a young team.
I still say we should trade him because we have two young guys who are the future. Not sure I'm ready to believe he can play a team game.
Oddly enough he sounded like he gets it. He talked about how he doesn't think the offense should be ran through him so much. And he knows the offense gets stagnant when it is going through him a lot.
So I don't get it. He even knows what the problem is with the offense is. So why is it still happening that way?
If Al Jefferson took less shots and learned the pick and roll scheme on offense and defense. Then he would be a welcomed commodity on this team. Maybe it will happen. He sounds like he is willing to move in that direction. But I don't understand why he is still throwing up a ton of shots. He is 2nd in the league in shot per game, per 48 min. That's not a good thing. Especially when we are trying to develop a young team.
I still say we should trade him because we have two young guys who are the future. Not sure I'm ready to believe he can play a team game.
The problem with Al is that last night's third quarter is the best case scenario for him. His shot never takes him to the free throw line, so the Jazz never get easy defensive transitions or easy points with Al taking all the shots. He doesn't pass so you damn well better hope he makes his shot over multiple defenders. But this takes his teammates out of the game psychologically. Finally, the Jazz just lackadaisically run through their offensive sets and then pass Al the ball when he's out there. But if they don't just pass Al the ball he doesn't do much else out there. Not a great screener, doesn't play the pick and roll very well, and can't pass from the high post effectively.
The dude is a 6th man on a good team.
The dude is a 6th man on a good team.
Jazzman_86
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He was on fire. Why not continue taking the shots? Hm, If Kobe does it. Everybody will say yeah great performance. Al - selfish.
Everybody on the team understood that AL had the touch. So they just gave him the ball. That's it
Everybody on the team understood that AL had the touch. So they just gave him the ball. That's it
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Deleted member 848
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The Jazz lost the lead because of Al Jefferson scoring? What?
So, instead of feeding the hot hand, you would have preferred Al to not putting up almost guaranteed buckets, and keep dishing it out to BELL on the perimeter??
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Deleted member 848
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FWIW, Big Al scored off of two pick and roll plays last night, and missed a pick-and-pop. The only reason his team kept feeding him was because he kept making the shots! In basketball, you wanna get the easiest possible buckets. The only problem with Al's "black-hole tendencies" is that if he is ever cold, then if someone passes it to him, everyone will fear that he won't pass it out, and attempt to score it himself. There is zero problems with Al taking over the game like he did yesterday, when he's hot. Hell, its actually the reason we stayed in it by the 4th quarter. Some of you are ridiculous.
Al and Harris ran the pick n roll decently last night, problem is that Al usually pulls up for a floater instead of all the way to the basket for a layup or dunk.
Scorpjazz
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This. I do see your points however, but this game Al was what we needed.
7StraightIsGreat
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The logic that the Jazz losing the lead during Jefferson's scoring outburst is somehow Al's fault, is one of the dumbest things I've ever read on this site (btw, that's really saying something). The Hornets happened to go on a tear during that time. It was Al's offense that kept Utah in the damn game. I can just imagine this thread had Big Al not scored 12 points in the 3rd qtr. It would go something like this:
-"Where was our highest paid player when New Orleans went on their run?"
-"Why don't we have a go-to guy on offense that we can counter with when the other team gets hot?"
-"Is anybody going to step up and take command of this team?"
and so on.....
Al isn't perfect. He was traded to a team that basically plays to the opposite of his skill set right now, but I agree with the others who think that it looks like things may be evolving in the right direction. For all of Big Al's troubles last year, he managed to set career highs in assists and blocks. That shows me that he wants to do whats being asked of him, and that he is trying to do those things to the best of his ability. Problem is, you don't totally reprogram a player like Al in 12 months.
-"Where was our highest paid player when New Orleans went on their run?"
-"Why don't we have a go-to guy on offense that we can counter with when the other team gets hot?"
-"Is anybody going to step up and take command of this team?"
and so on.....
Al isn't perfect. He was traded to a team that basically plays to the opposite of his skill set right now, but I agree with the others who think that it looks like things may be evolving in the right direction. For all of Big Al's troubles last year, he managed to set career highs in assists and blocks. That shows me that he wants to do whats being asked of him, and that he is trying to do those things to the best of his ability. Problem is, you don't totally reprogram a player like Al in 12 months.