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Boozer to Orlando?

On espn it says Boozer is on DHoward's short list of players they should go after.. Boozer for Gortat and Bass? I think Orlando would be all over that. I think the Magic might have to add an additional player, but this would be a great trade for both teams IMO.

Boozer would do great in Orlando, especially next to the best defensive center in the league. We would add size and a great backup to Millsap in Bass.
 
So The Jazz lose Boozer and take back 10+ mil per year for two role players at the beginning of multi year deals?

Hell, I'd rather lose him for nothing and take my chances elsewhere.
 
Bass and Gortat make the Jazz better? Really can't see it. Here are a couple of guys who have never been on the main stage. Boozer is worth more if he just walks away then the Jazz getting a couple of more contracts.
 
Bass and Gortat make the Jazz better? Really can't see it. Here are a couple of guys who have never been on the main stage. Boozer is worth more if he just walks away then the Jazz getting a couple of more contracts.

Did anyone else hear the discussion on 1280 the other day? The argument was basically that the Jazz are likely better off not taking back significant contracts (if any) for Boozer as well as not re-signing Korver and letting AK's deal expire next year. They would have lots of young talent and enough room to go after someone like Horford or Marc Gasol.
I would much rather see something like this happen than be stuck with Gortat's deal and role players that don't get us anywhere but a first round exit.
 
Bass and Gortat make the Jazz better? Really can't see it. Here are a couple of guys who have never been on the main stage. Boozer is worth more if he just walks away then the Jazz getting a couple of more contracts.

Did anyone else hear the discussion on 1280 the other day? The argument was basically that the Jazz are likely better off not taking back significant contracts (if any) for Boozer as well as not re-signing Korver and letting AK's deal expire next year. They would have lots of young talent and enough room to go after someone like Horford or Marc Gasol.
I would much rather see something like this happen than be stuck with Gortat's deal and role players that don't get us anywhere but a first round exit.
 
Did anyone else hear the discussion on 1280 the other day? The argument was basically that the Jazz are likely better off not taking back significant contracts (if any) for Boozer as well as not re-signing Korver and letting AK's deal expire next year. They would have lots of young talent and enough room to go after someone like Horford or Marc Gasol.
I would much rather see something like this happen than be stuck with Gortat's deal and role players that don't get us anywhere but a first round exit.

Man, no offense but 1280 is the equivalent of placing a mic between cubicles at (insert any office in SLC) and listening to very averagely informed sports fans give retarded opinions. Sometimes the most BASIC concepts fly right over their collective heads. They should NEVER (can I stress that enough?) be used as a source or someone to back up your point with.
 
Man, no offense but 1280 is the equivalent of placing a mic between cubicles at (insert any office in SLC) and listening to very averagely informed sports fans give retarded opinions. Sometimes the most BASIC concepts fly right over their collective heads. They should NEVER (can I stress that enough?) be used as a source or someone to back up your point with.

So, what is wrong with this BASIC idea of keeping cap space until the new CBA? I could care less that the idea came from 1280, but I do think the idea deserves some discussion. Almost everyone on this board is talking about having to make big, cap-clogging moves this summer. I think there is some wisdom in taking a small step back this year in order to keep future flexibility. Look at what KOC was able to do just after Stockton and Malone left. I think he deserves a shot to see what he can do with cap space and (hopefully) a CBA that allows the Jazz a more level playing field with big market teams
 
So, what is wrong with this BASIC idea of keeping cap space until the new CBA? I could care less that the idea came from 1280, but I do think the idea deserves some discussion. Almost everyone on this board is talking about having to make big, cap-clogging moves this summer. I think there is some wisdom in taking a small step back this year in order to keep future flexibility. Look at what KOC was able to do just after Stockton and Malone left. I think he deserves a shot to see what he can do with cap space and (hopefully) a CBA that allows the Jazz a more level playing field with big market teams

The one major problem with it is practical. Even with Cap Space, there's no telling what the Jazz could or couldn't get on the open market for potentially available players. Whether Gortat is the guy you sacrifice that possibility for IS the question since he's relatively unproven and signed to a potentially troublesome deal. But it might be a gamble worth taking as long as Orlando kicks in whatever else the Jazz want. Gortat and (say) Anderson is probably a better risk than the "chance" to solve frontcourt issues in Free Agency a year later.
 
The one major problem with it is practical. Even with Cap Space, there's no telling what the Jazz could or couldn't get on the open market for potentially available players. Whether Gortat is the guy you sacrifice that possibility for IS the question since he's relatively unproven and signed to a potentially troublesome deal. But it might be a gamble worth taking as long as Orlando kicks in whatever else the Jazz want. Gortat and (say) Anderson is probably a better risk than the "chance" to solve frontcourt issues in Free Agency a year later.

I would probably be ok with Boozer for Gortat, Anderson and TPE. The idea being tossed around with having future cap space is going after teams' RFA. Horford and Gasol are two major ones.
 
As Jazz fans, most of us cry and complain with the FO is unable to land a big man. Then, when a possible and very realistic deal for Boozer comes along and Utah could gain 1 or even 2 big men out of it (and maybe even a trade exception), Jazz fans are ready to piss all over it.

Someday I will figure out this fan base, but today is not that day......
 
I would probably be ok with Boozer for Gortat, Anderson and TPE. The idea being tossed around with having future cap space is going after teams' RFA. Horford and Gasol are two major ones.

Well, if they're RFA's that's not a very good strategy.
 
I would love to get Bass. Pietrus would be a disaster. He and Sloan would clash more than Giricek. In fact, I don't think I've ever seen Peitrus take a shot from inside the 3 point line... Nor have I have seen him take a shot with fewer than 23 seconds left on the shot clock.

He would cost us 10 games per year with his "wonderful" shot selection.
 
Did anyone else hear the discussion on 1280 the other day? The argument was basically that the Jazz are likely better off not taking back significant contracts (if any) for Boozer as well as not re-signing Korver and letting AK's deal expire next year. They would have lots of young talent and enough room to go after someone like Horford or Marc Gasol.
I would much rather see something like this happen than be stuck with Gortat's deal and role players that don't get us anywhere but a first round exit.
It's not rocket science. Miller doesn't have an extra $25M-$30M to allow the Jazz to carry a payroll in the low-to mid $80's (with the tax threshold expected to be about $68M).

Sign Boozer, or take back significant salary and AK HAS to be dumped. And dumping salary is EXTREMELY difficult and costly. Remember, it cost us a 1st rounder to dump Harp's contract. And OKC had very little actual cash flow for Matty - it was mostly covered by insurance.

Don't sign Boozer and we can do whatever we want at the deadline with AK's expiring. If the Jazz take back $17M in longer-term contracts they could do it.

Or, I guess we could try to sign a FA. But we wouldn't have the full $17M. There's about a $10M spread between the tax threshold and the salary cap. Wiping AK off the books probably gets the team about $10K under the cap (assuming Boozer, Korver walk, the Jazz re-sign Matthews and Fes and fill the roster with mimimum salary vets or rookies).

Of course there will be additional roster holds next season for the Jazz draft picks and the exceptions. A lot of other factors come into play, but I'm guessing the Jazz could perhaps clear $10M-$12M in cap space.

I think the much better bet is to try to trade AK's expiring for a starter or good 6th-man with 2-3 years remaining on their contracts. Jazz would probably be able to get other assets in the deal, like an additional backup player or draft picks. Otherwise you may find yourself at the dance with no partners wanting to hook up (or only the ones you really don't want).
 
There are "no legs" to reports that Bass could be sent to Utah in a sign-and-trade for Boozer, a person with knowledge of Orlando's strategy said. But given Howard's preference for Boozer, it's too early to completely dismiss the scenario. CBSSports.com
 
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