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Boston vs Utah for Hayward

Handlogten's Heros said:
I think Gordon's wife and family will have as much to do with the decision as anything. Gordon's best friends on the team are Ingles and Hill. Ingles is coming back... I'm sure of it. Who else is he close with in the league. He's kind of awkward socially in the NBA... mature dude. I think the market stuff, Boston big market and city, actually works against them a bit. Both Gordon and Robyn are from Indiana and have young kids...

I feel great about our chances keeping him, but i think we need to be willing to pay up for Hill and Ingles to do so. I think it will be in part about winning, but more about stability/family etc.
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Not sure if you have visited but Boston itself is not that large. It only has a population of 600K. Once your 10 miles out of the city it's just a bunch of family freindly, quint little New England towns, with nice homes, and lots of space/trees and probably the best schools in the nation. Its extremely family freindly.

That being said I think they choose Utah because they have already made their home there, they don't get better weather in Boston...and they're close to their second home in San Deigo.
 
Beantown said:
Not sure if you have visited but Boston itself is not that large. It only has a population of 600K. Once your 10 miles out of the city it's just a bunch of family freindly, quint little New England towns, with nice homes, and lots of space/trees and probably the best schools in the nation. Its extremely family freindly.

That being said I think they choose Utah because they have already made their home there, they don't get better weather in Boston...and they're close to their second home in San Deigo.
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Haven't been yet... hope to someday. Appreciate the insight. The big markets I visit are SF NY Dallas... which are cool if you are single, but wouldn't necessarily want to live there with a family.
 
green said:
Yup. But, when he was healthy, he was insanely elite. He was the best offensive big man in the league, with Cousins a distant second. And defensively, he made Gobert look like Kanter.

If he can get healthy....
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I love Embiid, but this is patently absurd. Your goggles are ****ing weird.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I think Gordon's wife and family will have as much to do with the decision as anything. Gordon's best friends on the team are Ingles and Hill. Ingles is coming back... I'm sure of it. Who else is he close with in the league. He's kind of awkward socially in the NBA... mature dude. I think the market stuff, Boston big market and city, actually works against them a bit. Both Gordon and Robyn are from Indiana and have young kids...

I feel great about our chances keeping him, but i think we need to be willing to pay up for Hill and Ingles to do so. I think it will be in part about winning, but more about stability/family etc.
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I would love it if we keep all three of them dudes.

I would love to run it back next year with better health, more experience in quins, system, and more cohesiveness between our roster.

#runitback
#internalgrowthftw
#bakethecake/soup
 
karl malone said:
Jaylen Brown has shown a ton of potential in limited minutes this year. He's very athletic, hustles, plays solid defense, can attack the rim, improved his outside shooting, & seems to be a high character guy with a great work ethic.
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Yep
I'm on his bandwagon
 
fishonjazz said:
I would love it if we keep all three of them dudes.

I would love to run it back next year with better health, more experience in quins, system, and more cohesiveness between our roster.

#runitback
#internalgrowthftw
#bakethecake/soup
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[video=youtube_share;-Jm-_5CjY34]https://youtu.be/-Jm-_5CjY34
 
From the Ringer:

If you look around the league, the only center who could realistically fill Embiid’s shoes defensively is Rudy Gobert. Like Embiid, Gobert is impossibly long and athletic for a man his size, and he makes getting good looks near the basket next to impossible. Gobert is the only other center in the NBA within six points of Embiid’s defensive field goal percentage allowed, and he’s the only other center who anchors a defense with a defensive rating lower than 100.
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On offense:

Embiid actually has a much higher free throw rate, which is the number of free throw attempts per field goal attempt, than Cousins and Davis because he’s playing far fewer minutes per game. His production over 36 minutes of playing time is obscene: 28.3 points, 11.2 rebounds, 2.9 assists, 1.1 steals, and 3.5 blocks. You have to go all the way back to the days of Wilt Chamberlain and Walt Bellamy to find a rookie putting up those types of numbers.
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As far as two way players go:

Embiid is in a category of his own. He’s one of the best two rim protectors in the NBA, as well as one of the most offensively skilled 7-footers. Gobert could not do what Embiid does on offense, while Cousins and Davis could not do what Embiid does on defense. The one other guy who pops up near the top of every category is Marc Gasol, a former Defensive Player of the Year who has expanded his shooting range this season and is playing at a career-high level on offense. And even Gasol hasn’t been as dominant around the rim defensively as Embiid, nor does he get to the line as often.
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https://theringer.com/joel-embiid-sixers-best-nba-centers-8e14d8e954c0

So, for you literal Larry's, Embiid does not make Gobert look bad. They are actually very similar players defensively. BUT, the point was, when Embiid was healthy, he was incredible.

Like I said, if he can ever get healthy, watch out.
 
green said:
From the Ringer:



On offense:



As far as two way players go:



https://theringer.com/joel-embiid-sixers-best-nba-centers-8e14d8e954c0

So, for you literal Larry's, Embiid does not make Gobert look bad. They are actually very similar players defensively. BUT, the point was, when Embiid was healthy, he was incredible.

Like I said, if he can ever get healthy, watch out.
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Embiid plays monitored minutes, many times against bench players. Gobert does his work during entire games against consistently better competition. And he wins most of those damn games (pay attention Unibrow, Cousins and KAT, as well.)
 
green said:
From the Ringer:



On offense:



As far as two way players go:



https://theringer.com/joel-embiid-sixers-best-nba-centers-8e14d8e954c0

So, for you literal Larry's, Embiid does not make Gobert look bad. They are actually very similar players defensively. BUT, the point was, when Embiid was healthy, he was incredible.

Like I said, if he can ever get healthy, watch out.
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I agree that Embiid is incredible but those numbers are inflated imo. Dude played rested and selective minutes. Rudy is a WARRIOR! Embiid is yet to show that he can go against the best night in night out.
 
Embiid is the heir to Hakeem...

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... if he can ever stay healthy. Also Hakeem didn't shoot and make 3s.

That said, Gobert is the better defensive player until Embiid proves he's an actual NBA player and can extend those results into actual games and play every night.
 
green said:
From the Ringer:



On offense:



As far as two way players go:



https://theringer.com/joel-embiid-sixers-best-nba-centers-8e14d8e954c0

So, for you literal Larry's, Embiid does not make Gobert look bad. They are actually very similar players defensively. BUT, the point was, when Embiid was healthy, he was incredible.

Like I said, if he can ever get healthy, watch out.
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Ya, no one disagreed about how good embiid is.
You said that defensively he makes gobert look like Kanter and got called out for the stupidity. So rather than make the post I just quoted, what you should have done is just said something like..... "ya, you guys are right. What I said was dumb and over the top. My bad."
 
NUMBERICA said:
Oden is the heir to Shaq...

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... if he can ever stay healthy. Also Hakeem didn't shoot and make 3s.

That said, Gobert is the better defensive player until Embiid proves he's an actual NBA player and can extend those results into actual games and play every night.
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Damn straight.

This works with other players too. lol
 
framer said:
Also Curtis Borchardt. . .
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I don't think Borchardt would have ever been dominant. He would have been solid no doubt, maybe even all-star or near-all-star talent. But doubtful he would have been dominant. He was absolutely not a Gobert-level talent.
 
The ironic thing about this entire post is that I don't think Gordon Hayward is really what Boston really needs. He would be a great add no doubt but they NEED an elite rim protector. Someone who will make it harder for Kyrie/Lebron just to drive and get layups.

I know a guy, but at least for now, he ain't going anywhere.
 
BackHander said:
The ironic thing about this entire post is that I don't think Gordon Hayward is really what Boston really needs. He would be a great add no doubt but they NEED an elite rim protector. Someone who will make it harder for Kyrie/Lebron just to drive and get layups.

I know a guy, but at least for now, he ain't going anywhere.
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Exactly, Boston got screwed with a guard heavy draft. Too bad for them there is not an Anthony Davis/Karl-Anthony Towns #1 pick in this draft. They could slot that player perfectly with Al Horford and it's full steam ahead.
 
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