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JimLes said:
And I might argue that someone from Lithuania and someone from the UK have as much, if not more in common than someone from New York and someone from rural Alabama.
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Make that argument. I don't believe it in the slightest, but I'd like to hear it.
 
dalamon said:
- talk of 'socialist governments' monolithically is language for the childish, and for simpletons. You're neither, so you can do better. Your propaganda may work on the uneducated, but fortunately fewer and fewer of us belong in that group as the years climb
- Putin is the biggest winner today. UK role in world diminishes, US is weaker because their closest ally is weaker, EU is weaker, Europe more divided. To mr Rah-Rah America, isn't this worrying?
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I'm with you that it is sad that the brexit campaign seemed to be driven by bigotry but I still think it's for the best.

The things that superpowers do.

The EU was and will continue to trend toward centralization. I don't think that democracy works at the scale of half a billion people. I don't think that any government works particularly well at that scale save for militarization. In my view the EU poses a significant threat to its own people as well as to the world. The US has the luxury of acting with impunity. The US doesn't spy on its own people and stay constantly in a state of war either because it's in the charter(constitution) or because its people want it. They do it because they can.
 
The Thriller said:
The Koch bros have no problem with the robber baron days.
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The robber barons used the government to create and enforce monopolies. The government murdered their striking workers. The robber barons could not have possibly hoped to stake claims such as they had or to keep their workers down in the manner they did without the government.
 
The Thriller said:
The Koch bros have no problem with the robber baron days.
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The robber barons used the government to create and enforce monopolies. The government murdered their striking workers. The robber barons could not have possibly hoped to stake claims such as they had or to keep their workers down in the manner they did without the government.
 
I have no idea what the hell brexit is but I do know that when I re-financed my house today (babies aint cheap and my wife ain't working) I was expecting an interest rate of 3.6 and instead got a rate of 3.25 and I asked why it was so low and the loan officer said it was because of something happening in europe.

I assume brexit is the reason for the low rate?
 
fishonjazz said:
I have no idea what the hell brexit is but I do know that when I re-financed my house today (babies aint cheap and my wife ain't working) I was expecting an interest rate of 3.6 and instead got a rate of 3.25 and I asked why it was so low and the loan officer said it was because of something happening in europe.

I assume brexit is the reason for the low rate?
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Britain voted to exit the EU
 
♪alt13 said:
Britain voted to exit the EU
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Is that like the United nations or something?
Who is in the EU? Are we in it or something equivalent?
 
♪alt13 said:
I'm with you that it is sad that the brexit campaign seemed to be driven by bigotry but I still think it's for the best.

The things that superpowers do.

The EU was and will continue to trend toward centralization. I don't think that democracy works at the scale of half a billion people. I don't think that any government works particularly well at that scale save for militarization. In my view the EU poses a significant threat to its own people as well as to the world. The US has the luxury of acting with impunity. The US doesn't spy on its own people and stay constantly in a state of war either because it's in the charter(constitution) or because its people want it. They do it because they can.
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Edward Snowden has something to say about that. Though I agree with the rest of your post.
 
Take that globalists, I hope other countries follow suit and the EU breaks into pieces. The EU never should have happened in the 1st place. F*** globalization.
 
jimmy eat jazz said:
For what it's worth, this article pretty well sums up many of my feelings regarding the Brexit. David Cameron made a huge miscalculation, and it has cost him his job, earned him history's ridicule, and put his nation's economy in peril. This was as big of a policy blunder as the Iraq war was for the US. (And arguably, the result of the referendum was the result of the ripple effects of Bush's destabilization of the Middle East, which contributed to the current refugee crisis, which contributed to the rise of nativist sentiment in the UK. It's the gift that keeps on giving.)

https://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybo...d_his_place_as_one_of_the_worst_pms_ever.html
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Lol Who is surprised to see a lib trying to Devine the future? Where do you store your scrying mirror [MENTION=460]jimmy eat jazz[/MENTION]?
 
Gameface said:
He probably made it closer than it would have been?
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So you think that the pre-election polling was even farther off than it turned out to be? If you had to describe his delivery/message in one adjective, what would it be? Mine would be "condescending."
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
So you think that the pre-election polling was even farther off than it turned out to be? If you had to describe his delivery/message in one adjective, what would it be? Mine would be "condescending."
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Matter of fact, but with a clear agenda.
 
A lot had to do with trade, and making it easier for products made in one country to be sold in another by ensuring that products meet uniform standards. That's just one example.

And some of the complaints have to do with requirements that are felt to be ridiculous.

(Edit: this is in response to a question fish raised much earlier. I'd pretty much typed it out but forgot to post!)
 
Boris said:
Lol Who is surprised to see a lib trying to Devine the future? Where do you store your scrying mirror [MENTION=460]jimmy eat jazz[/MENTION]?
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So you're saying that liberals, more than conservatives, actually try to forecast the implications of their policy decisions down the road?

Thank you for the compliment.

I'm not sure you realize that the implications of your presumed insult actually turn back on you. But then, since, apparently according to you, conservatives don't think about the implications of what they do, I guess this shouldn't be surprising.
 
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