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Brian Johnson New OC at Utah???

CONAN said:
How many other schools were after Brian Johnson to be their OC? Any at all?
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I would have to guess a big, fat, zero.

How many were after Doman last offseason? As hard as it may be to believe, that's not sarastic question. I don't remember Doman having any actual offers to be an OC elsewhere, but I didn't follow it that closely.
 
It was my understanding they made the Doman move sooner than they wanted to because if they didn't he was going somewhere else.
I don't know if there were any official offers on the table, but there could have been.
 
JazzSpazz said:
Interesting choice of words.
I find that people choose their wording in some instances based on personal experiences.
Exchange one word, Bronco for Whit, and do you now see yourself in this picture?

Anywhoo, if you will take a moment away from your Whit adoration, let's get back to the point.
I don't care if you do complain about it..... I don't know how many times I heard "my team would never do something that stupid" in reference to a Doman like promotion. "We have the best HC and AD in the history of the universe, and we are in the PAC12, and PAC12 schools don't do stupid things like that" is another one.

I am just gleefully enjoying the craw shoved in "some" Ute fans mouths after those comments.

This is not a personal attack against you jazzman12, but feel free to take it as such.
If you take it as such, it must be true.... eh?

(:D) <-- smiley face to make it seem like I am kidding about something.
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A little off topic, but you strike me as such a dork. Are you a Trekkie, Star Wars fanboy, Harry Potter enthusiast or anything else like that? Not that there's anything wrong with that stuff, I just want to see if you fit the stereotype that I've subconciously assigned to you.

Back on topic, believe it or not, I cringe everytime I see a Ute fan make a comment like "We're not BYU" in regards to stuff like the Doman hiring. While I think the timing of the Doman hire was questionable, I realize that every program makes hires like that from time to time. Not suprised at all to see comments like that coming back and biting some Ute fans in the ***.

Suprisingly, I feel very similar about the Doman/BJ hires. I think both are great young coahes that are eventually going to be very good at what they do. I just think both schools took risks in promoting them so early. Hell, IMO Utah took an even bigger risk because I think that BJ is an even greater unkown than Doman was at the time. At least Doman spent some time in the NFL and had a few more years coaching under his belt before BYU promoted him.

I think it's hard to disagree with the fact that BYU paid a price for Doman's growing pains last season. That doesn't mean it wasn't worth it, and it doesn't mean that Doman won't turn out ot be a good OC (I think he will). It just means that I thought BYU promoted a guy that wasn't going to hit the ground running. He needed time to grow into his job, and he still may need more time. For Utah fans touting the BJ hire, I would warn them of the exact same thing. Even if BJ turns out to be the correct hire, Ute fans better be ready for some rough patches ahead as far as the offense is concerned.

I think making things worse for Doman was the fact that the Heaps/Nelson issue was present at the time of his hiring. I still strongly believe that Bronco mismanaged Jake Heaps since the day he set foot in Provo. That made things harder for Doman. I do think that BJ starts of his OC tenure at Utah in a better position due to the fact that there's not a brewing QB controversy.
 
This screams as a settling move or that they had no other options they liked. There's nothing to do but hope, but Johnson was a magical player in that he didn't have phenomenal physical talent but was particularly intelligent on the field. Hopefully that translates.
 
NUMBERICA said:
This screams as a settling move or that they had no other options they liked. There's nothing to do but hope, but Johnson was a magical player in that he didn't have phenomenal physical talent but was particularly intelligent on the field. Hopefully that translates.
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I don't think it was a settling move. If Utah did have over 70 applicants for the job, I see no reason they'd have to "settle" for Brian Johnson. Actually, I've heard some say that it was a very calculated move by Whit as he tries to establish a certain enviornment up on the hill. Some are saying that moves such as BJ, or bringing in old alum like Morgan Scalley and Sharief Shaw to coach is an effort by Coach Whit to an establish a sort of "We Are Utah" type of brand that is associated with the football program. A program ran for Utes, by Utes.
 
jazzman12 said:
A little off topic, but you strike me as such a dork. Are you a Trekkie, Star Wars fanboy, Harry Potter enthusiast or anything else like that? Not that there's anything wrong with that stuff, I just want to see if you fit the stereotype that I've subconciously assigned to you.
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No, none of those, but I have some pretty strange pictures in my mind about you as well.

Do you drive a really big truck, so big that sometimes you wish you could bring out a step stool to climb into it if it wouldn't embarrass you so much?
Do you still wear your high school letterman jacket?
I picture you as a slightly cooler version of one of the Butabi brothers, maybe with a hint of Uncle Rico in there.

Let's never meet in person.
Sometimes the imagination is much more fun than reality.

BTW, I only have only a small disagreement with the rest of your post. Other than your feelings toward the Heaps saga and your dislike of Bronco, I think I actually agree with what you said.
 
jazzman12 said:
I don't think it was a settling move. If Utah did have over 70 applicants for the job, I see no reason they'd have to "settle" for Brian Johnson. Actually, I've heard some say that it was a very calculated move by Whit as he tries to establish a certain enviornment up on the hill. Some are saying that moves such as BJ, or bringing in old alum like Morgan Scalley and Sharief Shaw to coach is an effort by Coach Whit to an establish a sort of "We Are Utah" type of brand that is associated with the football program. A program ran for Utes, by Utes.
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You could be right. If fans can't hold on to the mascot, logo, or name at least they can have former players to remind them this is the team they rooted for in yesteryear.
 
I don't think Whit settled on Brian Johnson, I think it shows how much he believes in him. Coach Whit promotes Utah as a family and it's not something he takes lightly.He's been cultivating it for the last few years. During this last recruiting class every single recruit pretty much mentioned the unity the Utes had between players and coaches. If he were to hire an OC out side the program that person would more likely than not request to bring in his own coaches. That's just as big a risk as hiring a young inexperienced coach. In hiring outside the program and bringing in all new offensive coaches could change a big advantage and recruiting tool for Coach Whit and Utah. I was shocked that Brian Johnson was hired because it never crossed my mind due to experience. I think it's a risky move for sure but it has a lot more positives than negatives.
 
Spazz, I'm really bummed out that you're not fitting into the stereotype I've pegged you with, but I appreciate the honest answers. As far your perception:

Do you drive a really big truck, so big that sometimes you wish you could bring out a step stool to climb into it if it wouldn't embarrass you so much?
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I actually don't own any type of truck, let alone a a lifted one.

Do you still wear your high school letterman jacket?
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Nope. Packed away in storage somewhere.

I picture you as a slightly cooler version of one of the Butabi brothers, maybe with a hint of Uncle Rico in there.
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I didn't even know who the Butabi brothers were, so I googled them. I hated those charachters. You're way off with them and Uncle Rico but you shattered my reality, so I at least hope you're a little let down.

Let's never meet in person.
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I agree that we should avoid meeting at all costs, but if we do I'm going to make sure and wear my letterman jacket.

Sometimes the imagination is much more fun than reality.
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I may have been wrong about you being a Trekkie, etc. but something deep in my soul tells me to trust my feeling that you're a nerd. My instincts can't be that wrong.
 
FWIW, I am a big fan of pretty much all of the "nerdy" things listed, minus Star Trek. That was a little before my time. I am, however, semi-fluent in Elvish.
 
CONAN said:
Nerds calling each other out. Good stuff.
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Did you and Salty have your weightlifting comp yet?

My guess, having never met a single soul on Jazzfanz, is that the BYU fans on this board would totally dominate the Utah fans in any athletic endeavor.
 
Duck Rodgers said:
Did you and Salty have your weightlifting comp yet?

My guess, having never met a single soul on Jazzfanz, is that the BYU fans on this board would totally dominate the Utah fans in any athletic endeavor.
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Knowing what a fat, slow, unathletic bag of **** I am, I can honestly say that Duck is 100% accurate.
 
jazzman12 said:
A little off topic, but you strike me as such a dork. Are you a Trekkie, Star Wars fanboy, Harry Potter enthusiast or anything else like that? Not that there's anything wrong with that stuff, I just want to see if you fit the stereotype that I've subconciously assigned to you.

Back on topic, believe it or not, I cringe everytime I see a Ute fan make a comment like "We're not BYU" in regards to stuff like the Doman hiring. While I think the timing of the Doman hire was questionable, I realize that every program makes hires like that from time to time. Not suprised at all to see comments like that coming back and biting some Ute fans in the ***.

Suprisingly, I feel very similar about the Doman/BJ hires. I think both are great young coahes that are eventually going to be very good at what they do. I just think both schools took risks in promoting them so early. Hell, IMO Utah took an even bigger risk because I think that BJ is an even greater unkown than Doman was at the time. At least Doman spent some time in the NFL and had a few more years coaching under his belt before BYU promoted him.

I think it's hard to disagree with the fact that BYU paid a price for Doman's growing pains last season. That doesn't mean it wasn't worth it, and it doesn't mean that Doman won't turn out ot be a good OC (I think he will). It just means that I thought BYU promoted a guy that wasn't going to hit the ground running. He needed time to grow into his job, and he still may need more time. For Utah fans touting the BJ hire, I would warn them of the exact same thing. Even if BJ turns out to be the correct hire, Ute fans better be ready for some rough patches ahead as far as the offense is concerned.

I think making things worse for Doman was the fact that the Heaps/Nelson issue was present at the time of his hiring. I still strongly believe that Bronco mismanaged Jake Heaps since the day he set foot in Provo. That made things harder for Doman. I do think that BJ starts of his OC tenure at Utah in a better position due to the fact that there's not a brewing QB controversy.
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As much as I try, I just can't not like you. You're so reasonable, I'm not convinced you're actually a Ute fan.
I really like this post. Makes a lot of sense.
 
jazzman12 said:
I don't think it was a settling move. If Utah did have over 70 applicants for the job, I see no reason they'd have to "settle" for Brian Johnson. Actually, I've heard some say that it was a very calculated move by Whit as he tries to establish a certain enviornment up on the hill. Some are saying that moves such as BJ, or bringing in old alum like Morgan Scalley and Sharief Shaw to coach is an effort by Coach Whit to an establish a sort of "We Are Utah" type of brand that is associated with the football program. A program ran for Utes, by Utes.
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Except the Head Coach is a Cougar.
 
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