Forget the suspension. WWE should be on the telephone offering a huge contract while he's out of school. Kid should demand more time off and laugh all the way to the bank.
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Forget the suspension. WWE should be on the telephone offering a huge contract while he's out of school. Kid should demand more time off and laugh all the way to the bank.
Darkwing Duck
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What do you tell the kid that fears defending himself from bullies because he's afraid he'll be suspended?
I have told my boys that if I ever get a call that they fought back against a bully, no punishment would happen. If I ever get the call that they are the bully, all hell will break loose. As an 8th grader I was harassed by a gang of bullies and it got to the point that I was almost afraid to go to school. No kid should ever go through that.
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If they really did not punish the instigator then the administration at that school needs to be fired and their teaching/admin certificates revoked for life.
It worked well in my son's case. It was explained to him that he was being suspended for one day to stress the point that the school does not condone fighting or fighting back, but that it would have no other repercussions than missing a day of school. They even excused his school work for that day so he didn't have to make anything up.
The other kid, the bully, was so severely punished for it that the contrast really made the difference. In no way did it send a message that you should not defend yourself, rather the message they got out in a communication through home room teachers is that bullying will not be tolerated, and that kids need to talk about it to teachers or administrators before it reaches a point of escalation. They said of course every case is unique, but they also clearly outlined what the punishment was for the bully. I know from my son and his friends that kids took notice.
Stickler
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If you're his parents, you tell him not to be. You tell him that a suspension like that is trivial and meaningless. He should own it like a badge of courage. You fully support him defending himself (or others) from bullying, and that you are proud of him. You tell him: Disregard rules, acquire wrecked bullies.
So all these bullying stories make me ask the question, where do kids get their desire to bully/dominate/hit people from? Are kids just inherently evil? Is it something they learn from their environment? I know it's not particularly a cultural thing as there are bullies in Japan. When we were living over there, there were several cases where elementary school kids would get picked on so bad that they committed suicide. What drives kids to want to hurt other kids that bad?
Stickler
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What I find funny in the video is when the taller kid in the black shorts steps up to Casey as if he thinks it was wrong that he body slammed that kid. I wonder what he said to him then. "Pick on someone your own size?" Mamas don't let your babies grow up to be bullies.
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I know there are studies out there about this. I also know this is way more common than it should be (the suicide issue). Just do a search of teen suicide and bully or bullying. Here is just one such case:
https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=3882520&page=1
DutchJazzer
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what should the bodyslammer need to do he got slaped hit several times. the evidence is right there nobody helping nobody holding that little turd back. what other options are there. where ois the line what if after he hit him a few times he started raping him could he then fight back. whenever somone punches me i give them a fair warning tell them that one is free and ask them to please not do it again sometimes i even give them a second punch for free hitting at the third punch. but these kinda people dont understand 1 guy once hit me 7 times i warned him a couple of times. he had a bit too much to drink should i (casey) not fight back?
WHY GET PUNISHED FOR DOING THE RIGHT THING.
**** the stupid no fight policy. this is no fight this is SELF DEFENSE.
is there a "NO self defense" Policy? if so he should get suspended. but he did not fight he defended himself.
on the ohter hand i got suspended from school a couple of times. i did not see it as punishment i saw it as a vacation.
DutchJazzer
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DutchJazzer
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Problem is this clearly doesn't fall under the no fighting policy. seeing as the kid did not fight he defended himself
DutchJazzer
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you clearly know nothing about bullies. bullies prey on the weak this kid just proved he aint weak trust me this litle kid aint a fighter he is a coward. and he will never ever approach the Hero again. the bullies/cowards will just find another weak target to save face
https://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/philip_zimbardo_on_the_psychology_of_evil.html
I stumbled upon (literally) that little diddy the other day, blew my mind.
Darkwing Duck
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Suspensions are punishments. If the school administration really felt that no punishment was deserved for defending oneself (as noted by no make up work), then why punish the kid?
And "fighting back" is not tolerated. I guess the school would rather kids be punching bags than kids.
DutchJazzer
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Apeaared nothing got broken just a bruised knee acording to this link https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/bullied-boy-at-chifley-college-dunheved-campus-suspended-after-fighting-back/comments-e6frf7l6-1226022179050
I fully plan on this as well. If I ever find out my kids are bullies, they will not like me very much.
My daughter is kind of going through this right now. She's only 6 and has already had to tell one of the neighborhood kids "You know I don't like you because you're mean, right?" This little girl isn't violent mean, but she says mean things. One day she was with a group of other kids at school and they all said something about liking my daughter, and the little bitch said "Except we really don't, do we?" All the other kids said "Yes, I do". That's just one instance.
DutchJazzer
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gregbroncs
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I was sort of a bully when younger. I was never violent but did tease kids to tears on numerous occasions. I have regretted it for years and if I could remember their names and find them I would apologize for it. Bullies do it to be popular with their friends, at least that was my experience. My particular group of friends was not nice to less popular kids. It was a way to fit in with that group.
This kid fully deserved his beat down and should be kicked out of school. The kid defending himself has obviously gone through this for a while. He was right to defend himself, but a suspension as others have said was warranted. If he had gone to teachers prior to this instance he could have probably avoided it.
If the school did not punish the bully then the parents of big kid need to press charges against the school and the parents of the bully. Their son should not have to go through this abuse.
The school my daughter goes to does a good job of trying to find the bullies and punish them. They encourage kids to talk to parents/teachers/principal and will do so anonymously so as to avoid retribution. I hope it works.
I am with YB and his reaction if my kids are bullied or become bullies. Being a bully will not be tolerated.
This kid fully deserved his beat down and should be kicked out of school. The kid defending himself has obviously gone through this for a while. He was right to defend himself, but a suspension as others have said was warranted. If he had gone to teachers prior to this instance he could have probably avoided it.
If the school did not punish the bully then the parents of big kid need to press charges against the school and the parents of the bully. Their son should not have to go through this abuse.
The school my daughter goes to does a good job of trying to find the bullies and punish them. They encourage kids to talk to parents/teachers/principal and will do so anonymously so as to avoid retribution. I hope it works.
I am with YB and his reaction if my kids are bullied or become bullies. Being a bully will not be tolerated.
DutchJazzer
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Maybe you can teach your kid if they see bullying they would stand up and help the victim. wouldnt that be better.
people not only kids are always standing by doing nothing. if its bullying or a crime.
DutchJazzer
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that ussualy wont help.