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Burke Slams Media

It's terrible that so little is going on that this is actually news, but there's nothing else to talk about so I mind as well comment. I have no problem with reporters/bloggers saying what they want or Burke reacting to it. I'd prefer that they were able to do so in a respectful manner or that Burke didn't feel the need to react, but they all have the right to do what they want as long as it isn't hurting anyone. The exchange was unprofessional, though more so on the part of the reporters/bloggers. I strongly disagree with how they went about expressing their feelings, however I am a Utah Jazz fan first & foremost, so my only concern is that of the actions of Burke as the others (to my knowledge) are not under the employment of the team.

I don't blame Burke for reacting as it's human nature to do so, but as a professional athlete, he needs to understand that criticism is a part of the job (even when done so disrespectfully). Burke's only concern should be improving his future performance in order to help his team win, not what non-Jazz employees think of his past performance. I'm rooting for Burke, as his play directly impacts the team, but the fact that he feels the need to respond (imo) to people who have no impact/barring on his career (especially considering his recent troubles with social media) underlines the main problem which is his overall mindset (on & off the court). I hope he is able to turn it around, but these type of actions (as minor as they may seem) don't point towards that happening.
 
This article might have had some interesting content. I'm not really sure, because it was written so poorly I couldn't bring myself to finish it. Yikes. But hey, I'm a writer so....
 
MoTappin said:
This article might have had some interesting content. I'm not really sure, because it was written so poorly I couldn't bring myself to finish it. Yikes. But hey, I'm a writer so....
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It's like he was trying to be as terrible a writer as possible. Really hard to believe someone would be interested in writing articles, and yet so be so bad at it.
 
I started reading the title "Burke slams..." and I got excited thinking it was going to end with "a basketball." Oh well, a fan can dream.
 
Gobzilla said:
Heaven forbid Burke come here to this website. I think he would have to cry himself to sleep every night! You are a professional athlete, get over it and go play with your millions of dollars.
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I don't think you get the whole situation.

People who are supposed to be professionals are doing this, not random message board posters.
 
fishonjazz said:
I don't remember jody saying that the jazz WANTED to trade favors. Just that there were rumors of a possible trade. (That rumor could have came from an un-jazz related source like an employee of a different team.... Or it could have been jazz personnel commenting on an offer for favors from another team.)
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This is where Jody fell down and why his credibility and the newspaper he works for have taken a hit. Basic journalism requires reporters to be as specific as possible when describing an anonymous source. The reason is to give the reader some means by which to judge the veracity of the information. Reporting a rumor based on "a source" is comically bad journalism. At a minimum, something like "team official," "league executive," or "players representative" would at least give the reader a clue to help distinguish a baseless rumor from something that could actually happen.
 
Jonah said:
This is where Jody fell down and why his credibility and the newspaper he works for have taken a hit. Basic journalism requires reporters to be as specific as possible when describing an anonymous source. The reason is to give the reader some means by which to judge the veracity of the information. Reporting a rumor based on "a source" is comically bad journalism. At a minimum, something like "team official," "league executive," or "players representative" would at least give the reader a clue to help distinguish a baseless rumor from something that could actually happen.
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Yep
 
Flc said:
Also, on the original topic, Andy Larsen (who was promoted from his Salt City Hoops fansite - which is actually probably the highest-quality of the Jazz fan sites in terms of writing and analysis - to be a writer for KSL) tweeted out a sarcastic comment along the lines of: "Trey Burke has a 2014-2015 highlight reel?" with the link.

I can see both sides here - on one hand, that isn't the smartest move to make as a journalist who will (as Trey pointed out) have to smile and interview you later. On the other hand, I appreciate a biting cut-to-the-heart-of-it analysis from sports media and think that, far too often, everything is a bit too PC and tame. That's a major reason that I appreciate what Simmons (who is clearly Larsen's idol, from his tweets and even the way he footnotes his articles) did with Grantland - it was full of that type of commentary and biting humor.
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Don't ever compare Larsen to Simmons. Bill has charisma, is entertaining, doesn't sound like he just did helium with a broken nose, and actually knows the game. Andy just has an Excel spreadsheet with no conceptual context of what his numbers mean since he doesn't really know the game. I'd be surprised if Andy could even hang in a rec league, or church ball for that matter.

I'm not a Trey fan, and really never was, but Trey is 1000 x the person Andy Larsen is.

franklin said:
Or he would look at us as a bunch of lame ****ers with no money no life no motivation and no real understanding of knowledge.

Trey is top 500 in the world at what he does. For Trey: **** all of us haters.
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This. We bash Trey in comparison to other elite athletes, but sometimes we need to remind ourselves of how incredibly good these NBA players are.
 
Sexual Favors said:
Don't ever compare Larsen to Simmons. Bill has charisma, is entertaining, doesn't sound like he just did helium with a broken nose, and actually knows the game. Andy just has an Excel spreadsheet with no conceptual context of what his numbers mean since he doesn't really know the game. I'd be surprised if Andy could even hang in a rec league, or church ball for that matter.
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Couple of points here: Simmons isn't much of an idol of mine. Zach Lowe, though, that guy is my everything.

I fouled out of a church ball game once.
 
fishonjazz said:
But most all jazz fans love favors and hated the trade rumors so I don't see how this turned out good for jody.
Plus allot of people think he looks stupid now because of his rumor.

I don't think it benefited him...... In fact I think he took a hit to his credibility from allot of people. I don't see why he would make it up.
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He got national publicity for it. Far more people looking at that tweet than probably look at any of his normal stuff. What makes you think he cares if it's good or bad attention, or if Jazz fans hate it? He got clicks, he got national attention, and he loses nothing from most people because he said he had a "source". I see lots of reasons for him to just make up or sensationalize a story like this. It got him everything he could have wanted from it.
 
Red said:
When the blogger resorts to ridicule, he's basically saying "let's all laugh at this guy." And Burke has been the subject of trade talk, and criticism from fans and writers alike. He didn't like the sarcasm at the heart of that ridicule, and let fly himself. Probably always better to have a thicker skin in hindsight, and not jump into the fray. But holding the guy up to ridicule, by implying it should be considered a miracle that an actual highlight reel of Burke exists, that's a cheap shot. I lose respect for the blogger who resorts to cheap shots like that.
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I've come to the realization that most bloggers and writers and sports talk personalities are nothing but sports fans getting paid to watch sports. Most of them have no more understanding of the game or real insight than the people here. They also have the same type of personalities and sense of humor as most here. I laughed when I saw the quote about burke having a highlight reel. I also don't blame Burke for his reaction. Maybe it shows he's fed up or has a thin skin, I don't necessarily think so. He just didn't like the comments. Just as Jody came here to defend himself Burke had a right to defend himself. Doesn't mean either of them should not have been criticized, or that the jokes were over the top.
 
Stifle Tower said:
Why would I have anything to say about it? I would LOVE for the Jazz and Jody Genessy to stop trying to trade Favors. Maybe I missed it, but has there ever been an absolute denial by Lindsey...a quote with him saying the Jazz have never shopped Derrick and they believe he is an important piece of the team long term?

For the record, I think Favors is underrated and trading him for a "stretch-4" would be a mistake.

Do you deny trade rumors have swirled around Favors for two years? All I've done is give my opinion that I believe the rumors have factual basis. Aren't opinions allowed on this board, or is it just my opinion you live to attack?
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Does it seem even slightly odd to you that you're the only one ranting about this stuff?
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
Does it seem even slightly odd to you that you're the only one ranting about this stuff?
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"Ranting?"
I've made a couple of comments and have been attacked. Franklin asked me the same question two times and I responded. I'd hardly call that ranting when I am responding in defense of being accused of saying something I didn't or taking a position I have never espoused (namely, being in favor of trading Favors).
 
Gobzilla said:
Heaven forbid Burke come here to this website. I think he would have to cry himself to sleep every night! You are a professional athlete, get over it and go play with your millions of dollars.
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There is a difference between people he never interacts with being sarcastic than someone who regularly sees him in person and acts different to his face.
 
andylarsen said:
Couple of points here: Simmons isn't much of an idol of mine. Zach Lowe, though, that guy is my everything.

I fouled out of a church ball game once.
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What was a worse moment in your career?

Standing idly by while Ben Dowsett called Mississippi State a junior college or this recent twitter thing with Burke?

I'm guessing the former.
 
andylarsen said:
Couple of points here: Simmons isn't much of an idol of mine. Zach Lowe, though, that guy is my everything.

I fouled out of a church ball game once.
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NEVER let this idiots make fun of you!!! I listen to you on a podcast from faraway places. I think you are smart and even handsome not like that GESSYY!!!
 
Stifle Tower said:
"Ranting?"
I've made a couple of comments and have been attacked. Franklin asked me the same question two times and I responded. I'd hardly call that ranting when I am responding in defense of being accused of saying something I didn't or taking a position I have never espoused (namely, being in favor of trading Favors).
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Yeah. Ranting. And BTW, who said you want to trade Favors? You are exactly the opposite. You keep saying that not only shouldn't the GM discuss the possibility, but that he ought to publicly deny ever having discussed it. That would be stupid and bizarre.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
Yeah. Ranting. And BTW, who said you want to trade Favors? You are exactly the opposite. You keep saying that not only shouldn't the GM discuss the possibility, but that he ought to publicly deny ever having discussed it. That would be stupid and bizarre.
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Why would it be bizarre? Other GM's have come out and said trading player X was never considered. Hell, DL said after he drafted Rodney Hood (a ROOKIE) that he wanted to have him on the team his entire career. WE hear all this stuff about the camaraderie of the players. Lindsey makes it sound as if they sit around the campfire singing Kumbaya together. Yet by even seriously listening to offers, it appears the message is that Derrick will be traded as soon as the right deal comes along.
 
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