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Burks out indefinitely after ankle surgery

I had a feeling he wouldn't be back. Just way too quiet. It sucks. I feel for Alec who I'm sure wants to play.
 
So the Jazz spent 3 months determining what was exactly wrong with his ankle and had 5 different specialist look at it. Crazy.
 
I'm ****ing fuming right now. This is outrageous.

I don't remember who said it, but I read somewhere on the forums(either here or on realgm) that they were seeing Burks at the airport several days a week and he was flying to LA and NY. The person who posted this said, he's probably getting second opinion from independent doctors. And it turns out that was correct. I'm glad that he did his surgery away from our medical staff, they've proven to be worthless. I really hope some heads roll! This just cannot be happening. You cannot screw up the supposedly routine surgery and rehab of a multi-million dollar athlete like that. This just cannot be happening. It's amateurish.

Damn, jumping to conclusions much. I'm sure the Jazz are the ones who have been sending him to see out ankle professionals, not Burks. Complications can happen with any doctor in surgery to no fault of theirs.
 
Damn, jumping to conclusions much. I'm sure the Jazz are the ones who have been sending him to see out ankle professionals, not Burks. Complications can happen with any doctor in surgery to no fault of theirs.

Kristen Kenney said during her report that the Jazz had known about this as early as September. Wonder why they waited so long?
 
Kristen Kenney said during her report that the Jazz had known about this as early as September. Wonder why they waited so long?

Probably wanted to multiple opinions and probably had to see how the ankle would react to the rehab they were doing. I don't know, hard to say because Im not a doctor and more importantly, not his doctor. I'm guessing w/e happened it was a highly unique situation.
 
I'm ****ing fuming right now. This is outrageous.

I don't remember who said it, but I read somewhere on the forums(either here or on realgm) that they were seeing Burks at the airport several days a week and he was flying to LA and NY. The person who posted this said, he's probably getting second opinion from independent doctors. And it turns out that was correct. I'm glad that he did his surgery away from our medical staff, they've proven to be worthless. I really hope some heads roll! This just cannot be happening. You cannot screw up the supposedly routine surgery and rehab of a multi-million dollar athlete like that. This just cannot be happening. It's amateurish.

One of the greatest reach comments I have ever read on this board. Blaming the Jazz medical staff for AB frailties is ridiculous. And of course they looked for every option other than surgery.
 
We're going to need Burks. Hopefully they get this right by April.

I think he should be ready by All-Star break. Things I have read on this surgery has been like 2 months recovery time + 1 month added for Burks recovery time.
 
One of the greatest reach comments I have ever read on this board. Blaming the Jazz medical staff for AB frailties is ridiculous. And of course they looked for every option other than surgery.

Damn, jumping to conclusions much. I'm sure the Jazz are the ones who have been sending him to see out ankle professionals, not Burks. Complications can happen with any doctor in surgery to no fault of theirs.


If you remember he got back for the Jazz in the final games of the season. After the season he admitted he was not ready to return and on media day I think he slipped that he played with pain in those games.

So this is the timeline:

December 2015 - he gets injured, has surgery
April 2016 - he returns, NOT READY, PLAYS WITH PAIN
Summer - he gets what's deemed by our medical staff as a minor routine procedure to clean up his knee and ankle of debris from the previous surgery. They say he should be ready by training camp, no worries.
Post surgery - it keeps bothering him, NOT READY FOR CAMP, according to our coach and GM, he is doing EVERYTHING BUT CONTACT, while NOT BEING READY, consults multiple experts, this time it seems like out of the organization.
Today - we learn he's gotten a new surgery out of Utah(good for him BTW).

I know I don't have all the information, but what's the chance this is all by accident? This stinks of failed surgeries and/or rehab on multiple levels.
 
If you remember he got back for the Jazz in the final games of the season. After the season he admitted he was not ready to return and on media day I think he slipped that he played with pain in those games.

So this is the timeline:

December 2015 - he gets injured, has surgery
April 2016 - he returns, NOT READY, PLAYS WITH PAIN
Summer - he gets what's deemed by our medical staff as a minor routine procedure to clean up his knee and ankle of debris from the previous surgery. They say he should be ready by training camp, no worries.
Post surgery - it keeps bothering him, NOT READY FOR CAMP, according to our coach and GM, he is doing EVERYTHING BUT CONTACT, while NOT BEING READY, consults multiple experts, this time it seems like out of the organization.
Today - we learn he's gotten a new surgery out of Utah(good for him BTW).

I know I don't have all the information, but what's the chance this is all by accident? This stinks of failed surgeries and/or rehab on multiple levels.

Or it's just a freak thing that happened and is no ones fault.
 
If you remember he got back for the Jazz in the final games of the season. After the season he admitted he was not ready to return and on media day I think he slipped that he played with pain in those games.

So this is the timeline:

December 2015 - he gets injured, has surgery
April 2016 - he returns, NOT READY, PLAYS WITH PAIN
Summer - he gets what's deemed by our medical staff as a minor routine procedure to clean up his knee and ankle of debris from the previous surgery. They say he should be ready by training camp, no worries.
Post surgery - it keeps bothering him, NOT READY FOR CAMP, according to our coach and GM, he is doing EVERYTHING BUT CONTACT, while NOT BEING READY, consults multiple experts, this time it seems like out of the organization.
Today - we learn he's gotten a new surgery out of Utah(good for him BTW).

I know I don't have all the information, but what's the chance this is all by accident? This stinks of failed surgeries and/or rehab on multiple levels.

I have to agree. And we now see Favs and his health. It's hard not to question the medical staff. Especially after all the injuries the past few years. Or maybe we are just spoiled cause John and Karl were never injured. Or never admitted they were.


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I have to agree. And we now see Favs and his health. It's hard not to question the medical staff. Especially after all the injuries the past few years. Or maybe we are just spoiled cause John and Karl were never injured. Or never admitted they were.


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But Gordon Hayward has been incredibly healthy other than the extremely unfortunate way of injuring a finger in a jersey, but now it's being reported that he is ahead of schedule. **** happens. I find it hard to believe the Jazz medical staff is bad at their jobs with how much importance the Jazz have placed on this kind of stuff. The Jazz were the first NBA team to invest heavily in P3 for offseason training to monitor athletes weaknesses to avoid injury. Just seems like we are too forward thinking to have a 2nd rate medical staff.
 
Or it's just a freak thing that happened and is no ones fault.

Him not being ready and being put in games is not up for debate. That's what he said back then, that's what he says now. This is the medical staff giving him the green light to return while not being ready. That's the minimum you can say with absolute certainty - it is the fault of our medical staff and/or trainer staff and/or decision-makers. You can argue about what's the chance that he won't be ready after two surgeries. I guess it could be all nobody's fault. Again what's the chance?
 
I have to agree. And we now see Favs and his health. It's hard not to question the medical staff. Especially after all the injuries the past few years. Or maybe we are just spoiled cause John and Karl were never injured. Or never admitted they were.


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Most of the injuries we've had are freaky happenstance that I don't think you can blame on the medical staff. What you can blame on them is the multiple bad recoveries. From what I hear Favors' IT band syndrome is an injury of overuse and over-exercise. This one is harder to pin on the trainers, but is it possible a better staff notices something about his workload and lightens it before he has to miss 3 weeks of camp and several games? I don't know...
 
Him not being ready and being put in games is not up for debate. That's what he said back then, that's what he says now. This is the medical staff giving him the green light to return while not being ready. That's the minimum you can say with absolute certainty - it is the fault of our medical staff and/or trainer staff and/or decision-makers. You can argue about what's the chance that he won't be ready after two surgeries. I guess it could be all nobody's fault. Again what's the chance?

Again you are just guessing on all of this and assigning blame to things. They brought back for 3 games w/ very limited minutes to test him. He might have passed w/e test they had at the time to be cleared to play. Did he tweak something during those 30 minutes over 3 games? Who knows. Did he tweak something later? Who knows. Did he do something outside of rehab and hurt himself further? Who knows. You are just guessing on everything.
 
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