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Handlogten's Heros said:
I’d be more interested this summer so we can spend the summer working with him... would want two years on that minimum deal though... gotta get some of the upside if we help them progress... kind of a mistake we made with Mudiay imo.
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I’m just not sure it makes sense to sign a guy like that when we clearly need toughness. There are plenty of options at the 4 and 5 this summer, many of whom bring some toughness. He’s not one of them though.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
I’m just not sure it makes sense to sign a guy like that when we clearly need toughness. There are plenty of options at the 4 and 5 this summer, many of whom bring some toughness. He’s not one of them though.
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Ed’s tough... you get bender for his shooting and occasional rim protection. It’d be a minimum flyer type deal. Wouldn’t be a guy I’d be betting big on, but he’s showed some promise and Phoenix has been such a **** show he might connect some dots in a good development program.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Ed’s tough... you get bender for his shooting and occasional rim protection. It’d be a minimum flyer type deal. Wouldn’t be a guy I’d be betting big on, but he’s showed some promise and Phoenix has been such a **** show he might connect some dots in a good development program.
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Ed who? Davis?
 
Wes Mantooth said:
Ed who? Davis?
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Yeah he’s tough but he sucks at basketball. We need guys who are good at basketball, having toughness would be good too.
I liked what Trent gave last night... more physical than I thought and clearly pissed DM off. I miss crowder.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Yeah he’s tough but he sucks at basketball. We need guys who are good at basketball, having toughness would be good too.
I liked what Trent gave last night... more physical than I thought and clearly pissed DM off. I miss crowder.
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Davis doesn’t come across as tough to me and it’s moot because he sucks and doesn’t play.
 
Do Rich Kelly or Billy Paultz have any off spring. Those guys were tough and did a lot of the dirty little things that made a team successful.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
mum flyer type deal. Wouldn’t be a guy I’d be betting big on, but he’s showed some promise and Phoenix has been such a **** show he might connect some dots in a good development program.
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IF you can you absolutely get Bender.

He's 22 years old. 7'1" and shooting 44% from behind the arc this season.

Juwan Morgan is also, 22 years old and 6'7" and not in the same class (or really playing the same position at Bender).
Tony Bradley is also 22 years old, and 6'10" with a 7'5" wingspan and good hands (you keep him as your 3rd/2nd center- Bender's true potential is as an oversized PF).


Bender has touch from outside, a nose for rebounds, and length, and as Frank Layden used to say, "You can't teach height." Also, him and Bojan both play for the Croatian national team. You can play Bender at the 4, and once Phoenix realizes they aren't making the playoffs (hopefully before March 1) and waives Aron Baynes - you pick him up also to play the 5.

Our bench:
5- Baynes/Bradley
4- Bender/Niang
3- O'Neale
2 - Clarkson
1 - Conley/Mudiay
 
Joncolton said:
IF you can you absolutely get Bender.

He's 22 years old. 7'1" and shooting 44% from behind the arc this season.

Juwan Morgan is also, 22 years old and 6'7" and not in the same class (or really playing the same position at Bender).
Tony Bradley is also 22 years old, and 6'10" with a 7'5" wingspan and good hands (you keep him as your 3rd/2nd center- Bender's true potential is as an oversized PF).


Bender has touch from outside, a nose for rebounds, and length, and as Frank Layden used to say, "You can't teach height." Also, him and Bojan both play for the Croatian national team. You can play Bender at the 4, and once Phoenix realizes they aren't making the playoffs (hopefully before March 1) and waives Aron Baynes - you pick him up also to play the 5.

Our bench:
5- Baynes/Bradley
4- Bender/Niang
3- O'Neale
2 - Clarkson
1 - Conley/Mudiay
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Phoenix has zero reason to waive Baynes... they may want to use his free agent rights in a sign and trade this offseason or bring him back... we can bury the thought of us getting Baynes.
 
A 10.8% rebound percentage and 7.9 per 36 is hardly some great rebounding though playing on the perimeter hurts the latter some.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
A 10.8% rebound percentage and 7.9 per 36 is hardly some great rebounding though playing on the perimeter hurts the latter some.
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He sniffs em our early though.
 
Marvin Williams was a bore to watch when he was still youngish on the Jazz 6 years ago. He isnt an upgrade over Niang at all.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I looked closer at Bender... I had mentally written the guy off... I think he might be a good option. Doing some good stuff in the G league. Looks much better in the highlights.I think we could use him in pick and roll or as the PF standing in the corner shooter and play him at center on defense. Might allow us to bring in a PF that can rebound a bit and play the roll man role on offense.

Like he’s way more intriguing to me than Tony.
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HH you were really on one with this bad post streak.
 
Bender's career high in rebounds is 14, Bojan with all his years has a career high of 12. Bojan seems to do everything right (positioning wise) to try and get the boards, and he just seems to come up with none of them.
 
Joncolton said:
Bender's career high in rebounds is 14, Bojan with all his years has a career high of 12. Bojan seems to do everything right (positioning wise) to try and get the boards, and he just seems to come up with none of them.
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You’re using one game as an example and comparing players who aren’t similar in style or position.
 
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