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Jobs do not have a monopoly on hard work. Create things for fun, further your education, travel, search for passions.

Having an automated society will not prevent hard work for those who want it.

People will lack purpose.

What's that movie with Dax Shepard? Idiocracy? I see the world being a lot closer to that, tbh.
 
People will lack purpose.

What's that movie with Dax Shepard? Idiocracy? I see the world being a lot closer to that, tbh.

That's ridiculous. People will lack purpose when they no longer have to grind for 40+ hours a week against their will? lol. It will the THE OPPOSITE of Idiocracy. Wanna dedicate 10 years to study botany? Go for it. Wanna join a hippie commune and live off the earth for a while? Why not! Want to just take a few years off to raise your kids and show them the world? Well, now you can. Wanna continue to clean toilets for people who don't own robots? I'm sure you'll have that option too.

Some people love the work they do, including myself. But most work because they have no other choice. And most do not like their jobs, even if they tolerate the inevitable. If menial labor is the only way you can find purpose in life, then you have a problem.
 
That's ridiculous. People will lack purpose when they no longer have to grind for 40+ hours a week against their will? lol. It will the THE OPPOSITE of Idiocracy. Wanna dedicate 10 years to study botany? Go for it. Wanna join a hippie commune and live off the earth for a while? Why not! Want to just take a few years off to raise your kids and show them the world? Well, now you can. Wanna continue to clean toilets for people who don't own robots? I'm sure you'll have that option too.

Some people love the work they do, including myself. But most work because they have no other choice. And most do not like their jobs, even if they tolerate the inevitable. If menial labor is the only way you can find purpose in life, then you have a problem.

I hate almost all work.
Sign me up for the awesome non-work stuff and let's try that **** out.
 
I hate almost all work.
Sign me up for the awesome non-work stuff and let's try that **** out.

You do realize that the rich will control pretty much the entire world's GPD and will have to be heavily taxed so that everyone gets paid for not working, right? :p
 
You do realize that the rich will control pretty much the entire world's GPD and will have to be heavily taxed so that everyone gets paid for not working, right? :p

Lol... That was the FIRST thing I thought of when you said how great automation will be for the masses.
 
Lol... That was the FIRST thing I thought of when you said how great automation will be for the masses.

Well of course. How else would it work? A few people will own the entire output of each company, since there are hardly any workers. There will be many trillionaire businessmen, but they will be taxed at what we today consider an insane rate.
 
That's ridiculous. People will lack purpose when they no longer have to grind for 40+ hours a week against their will? lol. It will the THE OPPOSITE of Idiocracy. Wanna dedicate 10 years to study botany? Go for it. Wanna join a hippie commune and live off the earth for a while? Why not! Want to just take a few years off to raise your kids and show them the world? Well, now you can. Wanna continue to clean toilets for people who don't own robots? I'm sure you'll have that option too.

Some people love the work they do, including myself. But most work because they have no other choice. And most do not like their jobs, even if they tolerate the inevitable. If menial labor is the only way you can find purpose in life, then you have a problem.

I get what you're saying, but eventually that stuff gets old. You can only vacation for so long. Some people will study, sure...but how many? I would imagine the extreme minority. I'm just going off of what I've seen from your average person. Besides, what's the point of education if you don't need it? People go to school, to get jobs, to get money to live. If you give them that money, you take away all incentive for education.

Maybe I'm taking an extreme view. I probably am, tbh. That's just how I see it. It isn't going to be utopia. That's never going to happen.
 
Well of course. How else would it work? A few people will own the entire output of each company, since there are hardly any workers. There will be many trillionaire businessmen, but they will be taxed at what we today consider an insane rate.

You had me at "of course."
 
I get what you're saying, but eventually that stuff gets old. You can only vacation for so long. Some people will study, sure...but how many? I would imagine the extreme minority. I'm just going off of what I've seen from your average person. Besides, what's the point of education if you don't need it? People go to school, to get jobs, to get money to live. If you give them that money, you take away all incentive for education.

Maybe I'm taking an extreme view. I probably am, tbh. That's just how I see it. It isn't going to be utopia. That's never going to happen.

This kinda sounds like the ol' "money can't buy happiness."

Sack up and get better at it. It don't suck.
 
I get what you're saying, but eventually that stuff gets old. You can only vacation for so long. Some people will study, sure...but how many? I would imagine the extreme minority. I'm just going off of what I've seen from your average person. Besides, what's the point of education if you don't need it? People go to school, to get jobs, to get money to live. If you give them that money, you take away all incentive for education.

Maybe I'm taking an extreme view. I probably am, tbh. That's just how I see it. It isn't going to be utopia. That's never going to happen.

I imagine playing in a poker league will become more popular. Pokemon Go XII will be out then, so people will be playing a lot of that. Sex parties will be packed. DIY clubs for just about everything. Building model factories that actually produce miniature usable stuff. Shooting sports. We'll stay busy.
 
I get what you're saying, but eventually that stuff gets old. You can only vacation for so long. Some people will study, sure...but how many? I would imagine the extreme minority. I'm just going off of what I've seen from your average person. Besides, what's the point of education if you don't need it? People go to school, to get jobs, to get money to live. If you give them that money, you take away all incentive for education.

Maybe I'm taking an extreme view. I probably am, tbh. That's just how I see it. It isn't going to be utopia. That's never going to happen.

You're suffering from "things have always been as they are now, as they always will be" syndrome. Most study to get a job NOW. Newton didn't study physics because he needed to feed his family. He did it because he loved learning. That's the case with practically all scholars before the industrial revolution. They had money, so they didn't need to work. And like Stoked said, they created, studied and explored. Today, you can do so much more than they could.

Also, nobody is talking about utopias. We will still have some of today's problems, and many new problems. That's just the human condition. But life will be better in that one regard than it is today, just like the average person's life is easier today than it was in the 1500s.
 
You're suffering from "things have always been as they are now, as they always will be" syndrome. Most study to get a job NOW. Newton didn't study physics because he needed to feed his family. He did it because he loved learning. That's the case with practically all scholars before the industrial revolution. They had money, so they didn't need to work. And like Stoked said, they created, studied and explored. Today, you can do so much more than they could.

Also, nobody is talking about utopias. We will still have some of today's problems, and many new problems. That's just the human condition. But life will be better in that one regard than it is today, just like the average person's life is easier today than it was in the 1500s.

What a platform!

All hail automation! We will all have the time and not have to worry about money to become 6 billion Newton's!!!

**** life will be good. Apples on heads for EVEEYBODY!!!
 
What a platform!

All hail automation! We will all have the time and not have to worry about money to become 6 billion Newton's!!!

**** life will be good. Apples on heads for EVEEYBODY!!!

Aren't you already living like this? We're not smart enough to be 6 billion Newtons (more like 10 billion). But we'll be 6 billion Dr. Jonses. ;)
 
Aren't you already living like this? We're not smart enough to be 6 billion Newtons (more like 10 billion). But we'll be 6 billion Dr. Jonses. ;)

I'm more likely to have 13,200 apples fall on my head during my lifetime to have been called a genius once.

So no?
 
I'm more likely to have 13,200 apples fall on my head during my lifetime to have been called a genius once.

So no?

I mean, as I'm sure you know, you don't need to work and pretty much live free of the grind. So really, people will be living like you, just not in as much luxury.
 
I mean, as I'm sure you know, you don't need to work and pretty much live free of the grind. So really, people will be living like you, just not in as much luxury.

For the record, I don't live in any luxury. I'm a simple guy. I like archaeology, a little fishing, and simple time with family.

That's my luxury. Stuff doesn't mean a whole hella lot.

Now, if you're suggesting that all people could have a life that's close to what their heart is... I would do everything in my limited power to see as many others accomplish the same.
 
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