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Can we hold off the cornations of favors until we beat the lakers

There is no point in whining about something we KNOW won't happen. Favors can hit 50 points and 30 rebounds against the Lakers, but he'll go back to 15 mpg once Jefferson comes back. There's no changing that, and nothing to do about it. I hope the Jazz miss the playoffs. I cannot think of worse scenario than the Jazz making the playoffs, and thinking they're good enough. I expect Jefferson or Millsap to be traded in the off-season.
 
Brown Notes said:
That is the season average. Including early on when he was not good.

Kanter is averaging almost 14. You clowns crack me up.
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Why do you have such a ****ty personality? You make 1 decent post that offers good analysis and insight, followed by 10 worthless douche posts about how much you love yourself. Grow up.
 
GlassEater said:
I agree. A second unit of Hawyard and Millsap would be nasty, almost unfair to other teams to have those two abusing backups for half their total minutes. The problem we have, though, is Big Al makes his living on the low block. I'm afraid of him getting in Favors' way when Derrick is trying to score on a P&R The one to tie the game was vintage Stock/Malone. I'm excited to see the P&R return to the Jazz offense.
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+1. I haven't seen our starters roll to the basket in the same way since Stock/Malone...EVER. Booz/Sap have had a few nice moments, but Favors timing is pretty special on the PnR and that's what the other big's we have lack in the PnR. It drives me insane when we have a high pick and Al/Sap don't roll to the basket and by the time they do roll to the basket, the defense has already done a great job of collapsing.
 
Brown Notes said:
That is the season average. Including early on when he was not good.

Kanter is averaging almost 14. You clowns crack me up.
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He qualified the initial statement with "Once Jefferson comes back". Since Favors will go back to the bench "once Jefferson comes back", it should be obvious to anyone with an IQ greater than their show size that the relevant measure is how many minutes Favors plays when he comes off the bench.

18 minutes.
 
m3at said:
+1. I haven't seen our starters roll to the basket in the same way since Stock/Malone...EVER. Booz/Sap have had a few nice moments, but Favors timing is pretty special on the PnR and that's what the other big's we have lack in the PnR. It drives me insane when we have a high pick and Al/Sap don't roll to the basket and by the time they do roll to the basket, the defense has already done a great job of collapsing.
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That was one of Favors few good pick n rolls. Most of the time he just crashes into the defender for a charge, or he travels trying to avoid the charge.

Kanter hesitates to roll at all cost, he seems way more comfortable popping, but I can tell Tinsley is trying to make him roll all the time.
 
GVC said:
He qualified the initial statement with "Once Jefferson comes back". Since Favors will go back to the bench "once Jefferson comes back", it should be obvious to anyone with an IQ greater than their show size that the relevant measure is how many minutes Favors plays when he comes off the bench.

18 minutes.
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He said the guy would go back to getting 15. Lie. Try harder guy.

There was nothing qualified about it. Jefferson and Sap have not spent much time hurt. I don't know what a show size is, maybe you do standup.
 
m3at said:
I haven't seen our starters roll to the basket in the same way since Stock/Malone...EVER. Booz/Sap have had a few nice moments, but Favors timing is pretty special on the PnR and that's what the other big's we have lack in the PnR. It drives me insane when we have a high pick and Al/Sap don't roll to the basket and by the time they do roll to the basket, the defense has already done a great job of collapsing.
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Boozer actually was a much, much better screen-roll big for the Jazz compared to Favors right now - not even close. Not only could Booze pop, slip, and swing the ball when the defense rotated, but he could roll hard and finish strong with his left hand against 85% of the league as long as they weren't 7-footers wearing purple and gold. I just liked seeing Favors go strong and put Biedrins in the rim, because in those late-game situations so many times we've seen our bigs go soft when you have to go up strong with 2 hands and either dunk it or get fouled (or when you've got the type of explosion Favors has - both).
 
Brown Notes said:
He said the guy would go back to getting 15. Lie. Try harder guy.

There was nothing qualified about it. Jefferson and Sap have not spent much time hurt. I don't know what a show size is, maybe you do standup.
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Nobody was arguing about the exact number of minutes he got. I simply meant that he will go back to his backup role. You think you're a genius for typing a name into nba.com? Get over yourself.

Edit: And don't worry. Your BFF Craig already neg reppd me for attacking you. You two should just start a message board and talk about how awesome Jefferson is, and compliment each other all day long!
 
siromar said:
Nobody was arguing about the exact number of minutes he got. I simply meant that he will go back to his backup role. You think you're a genius for typing a name into nba.com? Get over yourself.
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But that's not necessarily true. And Favors plays good minutes. You tried to back up your point with a flat out lie. It's not about me. Sorry if I'm the only guy on the internet who likes to bicker.
 
GVC said:
Uh, yes there was, and you completely missed the point. No surprise.
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No, there wasn't. His point, which was wrong, was that Favors is doomed to low minutes and a miniscule role due to other players being on the team and/or a coach that won't recognize contributions.

Not only has Derrick played respectable minutes as a raw player, he WAS given the starting role by the very coach Sir is accusing of burying the man. If DF can play his way out of a starting role he can play his way back in.

Really, you're better than this.
 
HA HA Just got this neg from siromar
Thread:Can we hold off the...

I'm going to neg rep you every reset.
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You're a daisy if you do!

Another neg war. That sure worked out well for Verlin!

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vslice02 said:
Boozer actually was a much, much better screen-roll big for the Jazz compared to Favors right now - not even close. Not only could Booze pop, slip, and swing the ball when the defense rotated, but he could roll hard and finish strong with his left hand against 85% of the league as long as they weren't 7-footers wearing purple and gold. I just liked seeing Favors go strong and put Biedrins in the rim, because in those late-game situations so many times we've seen our bigs go soft when you have to go up strong with 2 hands and either dunk it or get fouled (or when you've got the type of explosion Favors has - both).
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Thank you.

Boozer is one of the best PnR/screen-setting and scoring big that I have ever seen. Not hyperbole.
 
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