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Can We Just Flipping Sign House Please!

Forrest is an NBA rotation player.
Yeah… he’s on a two way… they need to convert him to a regular deal if he’s going to be playoff eligible. I think they do it… but it will cost some tax.
 
I think the argument will be how House “just blew the socks off all expectation” and they really wanted to give him a chance moving forward.

In any case, I wasn’t originally expecting us to convert Forrest. After we dumped Oni and looked to do the staggering 10-day dance (which we still did with House), I figured if nobody stuck we’d convert Forrest. But now that the spot is covered, I’m leaning toward us not converting. And I don’t think there will be a rationalization because that’s going to be a really specific piece of information that’s going to be easy to ignore. If it’s brought up, you get a hand wave about House, reference to us keeping RFA rights on Trent (which would have been the case anyway but this is sleight of hand), and then referencing something something about tight playoff rotations.
I think they do it… just looked up the rule and if they do ot any time before the last day of the regular season he’s eligible for the postseason. Probably wait for the last day but I’m not sure how the pro-rata cap hit works. It would be the biggest penny pinch of all.
 
I think they do it… just looked up the rule and if they do ot any time before the last day of the regular season he’s eligible for the postseason. Probably wait for the last day but I’m not sure how the pro-rata cap hit works. It would be the biggest penny pinch of all.
“We’re saving our pennies to re-sign Joe, especially as we now know there’s another suitor.”
 
It’s pretty terrible and with NAW moving to Portland and things happening so fast, I don’t think they fully understood the ramifications of cutting $3M from this year’s cap to add $5M next year. No way they pull the trigger when they see it in that light. Just wrap it up and say “we like Joe and he’s a big part of this franchise,” because really, the real money move (compared to what we did) was to just let Joe expire.
Not to mention maintaining the relationship/history/culture that I think is really important. Joe’s off-court value is kind of the only thing that explains the idea that Portland are going to re-sign him next ear (outside of Portland just trying to stick it to us).

I’m calling for Smith and Ainge’s heads if Joe comes back to basketball better than he left it and is in another jersey. They’re already on my **** list but I will be competing with Cy for most insane hater.

Last thing: NAW sucks. The list of guys with good measurables that don’t make it in the league is thousands of names long. The debt owed to him is gonna create - yet again - greater costs than benefits. All for the honor of gutting one of the core cultural elements of this team and sullying the reputation of the organization. It’s ****ing stupid and ugly.
 
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Not to mention maintaining the relationship/history/culture that I think is really important. Joe’s off-court value is kind of the only thing that explain the idea that Portland are going to re-sign him next ear (outside of Portland just trying to stick it to us).
I was curious to know if there’s any hold-overs in their FO from the days of when they signed Millsap to that front-loaded offer-sheet to screw us, then a year later snagged Matthews.
 
I was curious to know if there’s any hold-overs in their FO from the days of when they signed Millsap to that front-loaded offer-sheet to screw us, then a year later snagged Matthews.
That whole dynamic is the first thing I thought of as all of this has been happening. But also… they absolutely nailed the assessment that these were players worth going hard after.
 
Ingles coming back is pretty likely. How he plays when he returns is up to what condition he comes back in. If he works hard and gets in great shape like he did a few years ago for us he will be solid again and worth more than the min. If he comes in rehabbed but poor shape he is worth having for the min as a cheerleader and locker room guy. I think he will be motivated this off-season though with the break he has had.
 
They should. He is better than a minimum player.
I'm just not sure why we keep ignoring the fact that he likely misses at least 50 games next year. 30 games is close to the best case scenario... how good will he be at his age in those 30 games? He might be worth more than the minimum if he can help a team in the playoffs but its likely those first 25 games are not going to be peak Ingles.

I love the guy... he's tough... I'm not rooting against him at all... but its science.
 
I'm not sure that's true at least next year. I'm guessing the team who signs him next year would be more for his locker room presence.
In the case of Portland, if Joe signs a one-year minimum then they retain his Bird Rights. I wonder if that’s what they’re referencing when they talk about Bird Rights, cuz signing him to above the MLE next year is pure non-sense.
 
In the case of Portland, if Joe signs a one-year minimum then they retain his Bird Rights. I wonder if that’s what they’re referencing when they talk about Bird Rights, cuz signing him to above the MLE next year is pure non-sense.
It's just weird for a team to pull a trade that might help them 2 years down the road.

I'm curious what Joe actually thinks of the organization right now. He said he was ok being traded if it meant brining in a player that could help with our playoff push. It's clear now that's not what we did.
 
It's just weird for a team to pull a trade that might help them 2 years down the road.

I'm curious what Joe actually thinks of the organization right now. He said he was ok being traded if it meant brining in a player that could help with our playoff push. It's clear now that's not what we did.
Which has been my point since he was traded.

Joe’s been repping the Blazers pretty hard. If I was him I’d be pissed at the Jazz, and I know that because I wasn’t the one traded and am pissed.
 
Which has been my point since he was traded.

Joe’s been repping the Blazers pretty hard. If I was him I’d be pissed at the Jazz, and I know that because I wasn’t the one traded and am pissed.
People should be preparing themselves for next Wednesday, when the Blazers come to town. If Joe is back from Chicago, which I'd presume he is, then he'll likely be on the bench for the Blazers.
 
Ingles coming back is pretty likely. How he plays when he returns is up to what condition he comes back in. If he works hard and gets in great shape like he did a few years ago for us he will be solid again and worth more than the min. If he comes in rehabbed but poor shape he is worth having for the min as a cheerleader and locker room guy. I think he will be motivated this off-season though with the break he has had.
I hope you are correct but the tidbits I hear makes me wonder if that is the case. I wont be surprised if he is done with the Jazz which is disappointing.
 
People should be preparing themselves for next Wednesday, when the Blazers come to town. If Joe is back from Chicago, which I'd presume he is, then he'll likely be on the bench for the Blazers.
Of course prepping enough people to start a "Ryan sucks" chant when they show him on the jumbotron would be pretty good.
 
It's just weird for a team to pull a trade that might help them 2 years down the road.

I'm curious what Joe actually thinks of the organization right now. He said he was ok being traded if it meant brining in a player that could help with our playoff push. It's clear now that's not what we did.
The Jazz are so limited with assets, that the NAW deal was probably a swing for the fences not necessarily for the ‘22 home stretch, but beyond.

They most likely make this move so they can tell Donovan “Look, we had a high draft rating on this guy and we think he’s been mis-cast on a bad team thus far. Give us an offseason to immerse him in our system and next season he’s a strong 3 and D guy playing heavy rotation minutes”.

I could be wrong, but it’s literally the only way I can make sense of why they did this deal. They better hope it works out that way because if not, Ryan and Ainge are gonna look like giant **** heads. Not just to the fans either. The players aren’t going to take kindly to dumping the backbone of their locker room for a dude who can’t play.
 
I could be wrong, but it’s literally the only way I can make sense of why they did this deal. They better hope it works out that way because if not, Ryan and Ainge are gonna look like giant **** heads. Not just to the fans either. The players aren’t going to take kindly to dumping the backbone of their locker room for a dude who can’t play.
You can’t think of any other reasons?

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