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Since we can't post the article, here's the quick of it:

The author (never heard of him) mentions Booze's recurring injuries. His take on his contract upcoming is that Booze is worth 3 years, 30M but that he'll get 4 years, 13-15M. The best food for thought from the article was this:

"According to basketballvalue.com, the Jazz were nearly two points worse with Boozer on the court over the past two seasons, even after adjusting for the strength of his teammates and opponents. How could a 20-and-10 guy be a detriment to his team? Well, don't forget that defense is half the game.

It's an irrefutable fact that the Jazz were better defensively without Boozer this past season. The Jazz allowed six more points every 100 possessions while Boozer was on the court relative to when he sat the bench. His offensive exploits failed to make up for his defensive deficiencies, as he improved the Jazz's scoring by only four points -- a net margin of minus-two points."

I think given our new board policies on quoting sites, two paragraphs is the max. If there's a problem with me posting espn insider info, please delete the thread as needed mods. Thank you.
 
Great Post! Thanks for the info. And I have to completely agree. All of the guys on hear that say the Jazz are going to be a lottery team if we don't resign Boozer or draft an big to replace him forget how well the Jazz have played in the past without him. True we aren't a Championship team with or without him without another couple of players. But losing him isn't as catastrophic as some think,
 
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And it's not like there's only a real small sample of games (time) where he hasn't played, eh? Two words:

Da Paperboy!
 
+25 reputations to those that have posted before me. With Boozer on this team, we are going nowhere....fast.
 
Even Sloan has said this off season that it would be very hard to bring Boozer back. He understands how much money they would have to throw at the Booz to keep him.
 
Years from now, after Boozer had long been forgotten, there will be statues of Deron and da Paperboy next to Stockton and Malone's.

Chuck Barkley, when asked who he thought the best NBA player of all time was, said: "Gotta be John Stockton. Who else could make an average forward like Karl Malone actually come to be known as "The Mailman?"
 
Great Quote from Barkley. Stock was a player that could make even a bad player look good at times with his ability to get them the ball right were they needed it to score.
 
2010 NBA Free Agency, Buyer Beware: Carlos Boozer "Carlos Boozer is represented by agent Rob Pelinka, who is going to demand near max money. A few years ago, there was a similar situation when Elton Brand was on the market. Brand, like Boozer, is an injury-prone, undersized power forward. Brand got near max money, and may be owner to the most untradeable contract in the NBA. Financially, Brand has killed the Sixers and will continue to consume their cap for the next three years until he’s 35, when he’ll make $18 million."

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/408886-2010-nba-free-agency-buyer-beware-carlos-boozer
 
KrazeeEyezKilla said:
Since we can't post the article, here's the quick of it:

The author (never heard of him) mentions Booze's recurring injuries. His take on his contract upcoming is that Booze is worth 3 years, 30M but that he'll get 4 years, 13-15M. The best food for thought from the article was this:

"According to basketballvalue.com, the Jazz were nearly two points worse with Boozer on the court over the past two seasons, even after adjusting for the strength of his teammates and opponents. How could a 20-and-10 guy be a detriment to his team? Well, don't forget that defense is half the game.
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What? The Jazz were worse with Boozer on the court? And it was because of his defense? What a concept.

And who decides the allocation of playing time (and supposedly preaches defense, but evidently doesn't enforce it)?
 
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My personal favorite part of Boozer's article was talking about his reliability. They have a reliability rating, which is
"A composite rating that quantifies a player's offensive dependability on a 1 to 100 scale after considering efficiency, shot creation, playing time and clutch performance. LeBron James is a 98, David West is a 75, DeMarre Carroll is a 10."

Here are some more: Bosh: 93
Stoudamire: 92
Our good friend Boozer: a whopping 78.

I feel bad for whoever ends up with Booze. I guarantee they will overpay and they will be disappointed.

The article says Booze is worth 3 years 30 million, which I agree with. However, they said in the article that Booze will probably get 4 years 60 million.

And for those who aren't insiders who want to read this article: pony up the dough. $4.00 a YEAR isn't too much to ask for insider articles.
 
Addendum: This same source has a ranking of lineups for the 2010 playoffs. Among lineups used for at least ~29 minutes (top 5% of lineups) across the 16 playoff teams, Utah's best lineup was Williams, Deron - Miles, C.J. - Matthews, Wes - Boozer, Carlos - Fesenko, Kyrylo.
https://basketballvalue.com/topunits.php?year=2010 playoffs&sortnumber=17&sortorder=DESC

Note the conspicuous absence of Boozer + Millsap together. Such a pairing did make the top 5% of lineups on the positive side in one combination, but it was lower than the lineup above with Fesenko, and it had two other combinations with negative +/-.

The worst Jazz lineup among the four Jazz lineups that made the top 5% in minutes was the Boozer-Millsap lineup that was the most used: Williams, Deron - Miles, C.J. - Matthews, Wes - Millsap, Paul - Boozer, Carlos


Out of ALL lineups (and there are hundreds of them) across all 16 playoff teams, Williams, Deron - Matthews, Wes - Korver, Kyle - Millsap, Paul - Fesenko, Kyrylo was the third most effective, albeit on the basis of only 10 minutes' playing time. Not an implication that this lineup should be used more often than any other; in this case, it adds credence to the notion that Fesenko should've been used more--perhaps alongside either Millsap or Boozer.


And people wonder why I criticize Sloan for not analyzing player combinations, not making more effective substitutions, and not developing players. Fesenko didn't finish any of the four Laker games, and in at least two of those games, he went out of the lineup with the Jazz having either a lead or being close to it--despite the poor FT shooting and limited scoring. The defensive presence was more important, which is what the original article was probably trying to suggest. A coach doesn't need to do much numerical analysis to figure it out; just look at the scoreboard when you put in a player relative to when you take him out. I would expect a coach especially of Sloan's stature and experience to not be mesmerized by the relatively prolific scoring of Boozer (or Boozer + Millsap) vs. an assessment of the opposition and a decision that playing two post players measuring 6'9" or less is probably not effective vs. an opposing lineup of one 7-footer and another PF/C who is either 6'10" or 7-feet plus.
 
Just because Booz might be overpriced or overrated doesnt make Millsap the solution for 4. Jazz are going to be pretty limited with either of them. But if they do let go of Booz, they DO have to spend somewhere else to shore up all the other positions. Otherwise we might just barely make the playoffs and get bounced out in the first round. If Garnett and Perkins and Wallace had a tough time keeping the Lakers bigs off the boards, good luck with Millsap.
 
Golfman said:
My personal favorite part of Boozer's article was talking about his reliability. They have a reliability rating, which is
"A composite rating that quantifies a player's offensive dependability on a 1 to 100 scale after considering efficiency, shot creation, playing time and clutch performance. LeBron James is a 98, David West is a 75, DeMarre Carroll is a 10."

Here are some more: Bosh: 93
Stoudamire: 92
Our good friend Boozer: a whopping 78.

I feel bad for whoever ends up with Booze. I guarantee they will overpay and they will be disappointed.

The article says Booze is worth 3 years 30 million, which I agree with. However, they said in the article that Booze will probably get 4 years 60 million.

And for those who aren't insiders who want to read this article: pony up the dough. $4.00 a YEAR isn't too much to ask for insider articles.
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Boozer for 4 years and 60 million isn't so horrible.
 
Hopper said:
2010 NBA Free Agency, Buyer Beware: Carlos Boozer "Carlos Boozer is represented by agent Rob Pelinka, who is going to demand near max money. A few years ago, there was a similar situation when Elton Brand was on the market. Brand, like Boozer, is an injury-prone, undersized power forward. Brand got near max money, and may be owner to the most untradeable contract in the NBA. Financially, Brand has killed the Sixers and will continue to consume their cap for the next three years until he’s 35, when he’ll make $18 million."

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/408886-2010-nba-free-agency-buyer-beware-carlos-boozer
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Wow, a real bleacher report article.

Anyways, this situation seems to be different. Elton was coming off a major knee injury, and was a new addition for the Sixers. Boozer is coming off a healthy season, and has consistently been a 20-10 guy for us.
 
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