CBA negotiations - Players should start by asking for ponies, LOL

[moevillini]

https://newsok.com/too-early-for-nba-labor-deal/article/3542497

some good info in this article, but this jumped out at me:

...The most significant date more likely could be Nov. 15, which is the day players are scheduled to receive their first paycheck for the 2011-12 season.

This is the insight of Larry Coon, a computer scientist and information technology director from Cal-Irvine and the man recognized as an expert on CBA and salary cap issues.

Coon said nothing happens early in labor negotiations, much like his everyday life with daughter Megan.

“My daughter, when she wants something, the first thing she asks for is a pony,” Coon said.

“The next thing she asks for is a baby sister. Finally, on the third thing, she asks for something she actually thinks she’s going to get.”

...Read more: https://newsok.com/expert-nba-owner...t-on-labor-deal/article/3542497#ixzz1F5rFJCCW

trouble is, the owners would probably be thrilled to buy them all ponies if that's all it takes ;-)

 

[Jean-Luc]

that is a good analogy for that relationship... owners and players are like parents and children... explains why their all so whiny and immature.

"gotta up my allowance or I'm going to be a sour puss around the house and not help out mmmkay mom and dad?"

 

[carolinajazz]

trouble is, the owners would probably be thrilled to buy them all ponies if that's all it takes ;-)

...the owners are not going to give the players anything.....do you understand that? NOTHING! They are going to lock these pathetic clowns out until they get exactly what THEY want!

 

[fallenchicken]

...the owners are not going to give the players anything.....do you understand that? NOTHING! They are going to lock these pathetic clowns out until they get exactly what THEY want!

Great post; full of insight and understanding.

 

[carolinajazz]

Great post; full of insight and understanding.

....yeah, not quite as good as the pony thing!

 

[moevillini]

some related information:

Sources who have negotiated the sales of NBA franchises and other major deals say the value of the Cavaliers declined from about $375 million to $275 million this year, after LeBron James left for Miami. CNBC first reported the sharp dive last week. Sources confirmed the values Thursday for The Detroit News.

Forbes magazine reported better numbers for the Cavaliers last month, saying that while the value declined by 26 percent after James left, the value of the team dropped from $476 million to $355 million.

In the same report, Forbes estimated the value of the Pistons declined about 25 percent, from $479 million in 2010 to $360 million this year. Meanwhile, NBA officials hope the eventual price tag for the Pistons will be about $420 million.

The staggering reductions are probably the largest year-to-year among the teams. But many owners say they are losing money and that the players' union must accept significant concessions that amount to a new model of ownership if the league is to re-establish its profitability.

"The numbers for those two franchises make the point that the model for NBA ownership is, if not broken, then certainly in need of a complete overhaul," said one source, who agrees with others a lockout is likely at the start of the 2011-12 season.

From The Detroit News: https://detnews.com/article/2011022...ale-talks-go-on-amid-negativity#ixzz1FAPfhQgt

https://www.detnews.com/article/20110225/SPORTS0102/102250348/1127/SPORTS0105/Pistons-sale-talks-go-on-amid-negativity

 

[Gyp Rosetti]

...the owners are not going to give the players anything.....do you understand that? NOTHING! They are going to lock these pathetic clowns out until they get exactly what THEY want!

can i ask you something and get a serious response? why do you constantly post such pointless drivel? i'm serious. not that our ratings mean much but yours is a zero. that says something. i'm not saying this board, by any means, is or should be a popularity contest. heck, i act like a dork on here but every once in a blue moon, i bring something to the table that isn't purely garbage. why not do the same? why not try to post something of substance rather than post your cynically predictable crap time after time after time? seriously. if people found it funny every once in a while that would be one thing. but nobody does. in other words, you're being a cynical douche just for the sake of being a cynical douche and there's nothing redeeming in that. i know you're probably fairly intelligent. why not exhibit that.

 

[carolinajazz]

can i ask you something and get a serious response? why do you constantly post such pointless drivel? i'm serious. not that our ratings mean much but yours is a zero. that says something. why not try to post something of substance rather than post your cynically predictable crap time after time after time? seriously. i know you're probably fairly intelligent. why not exhibit that.

....what I post here is how I feel about the state of today's NBA...and I'm not alone in those feelings, that's for sure! I feel my post are of "substance" ratings not withstanding! (by the way, your talking about "rep power?" What is that anyway? Who determines it?) You may think the NBA is in good shape and headed in the right direction. I think just the opposite. The upcoming year long lockout should produce a number of sport writers commentary.....and many will be saying the same thing I've been "driveling" for years!

 

[unluckyseventeen]

....what I post here is how I feel about the state of today's NBA...and I'm not alone in those feelings, that's for sure! I feel my post are of "substance" ratings not withstanding! (by the way, your talking about "rep power?" What is that anyway? Who determines it?) You may think the NBA is in good shape and headed in the right direction. I think just the opposite. The upcoming year long lockout should produce a number of sport writers commentary.....and many will be saying the same thing I've been "driveling" for years!

Then what's the point of even following the NBA anymore? I don't think anybody really reads what you say, and I'd bet more people on this site have you on ignore than not.

 

[carolinajazz]

...here's the first of MANY sports writers who agree with my sentiments! I suspect he's on your "ignore" list, too!

"It's a new day. A new era. A time when the masses, still feeling the residual effects of an economic recession, are growing increasingly disenchanted with the idea of padding the wallets of those apparently unappreciative of the affluence they've captured.

The general sporting public is eager to establish some level of law and order, a return to the rules of yesteryear.

When Hunter is sitting on the opposite side of the table from Stern and the representatives for 30 owners who have reportedly lost hundreds of millions of dollars, they'll look for validation as to why players don't deserve the share of the pie they are getting.

They'll point to guaranteed years that have not translated into guaranteed productivity, and to expenditures that seem excessive. But mostly, they'll point to discipline, specifically the absence of it and the greater need for control so as to avoid the specter of a diminishing product."

https://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=smith_stephen&page=PistonsProtest-110227