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Christian Missionary Killed by Isolated Tribe

Alfalfa said:
I also think him being a simpleton is a better explanation than an Asian with colonialist zeal, as suggested by the article.
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The sentiment in that article is outrageous. ITS A MENTAL HEALTH ISSUE, clearly. the people detracting from Mental health issues to talk about their own feelings are doing us all a big disservice. These spades should be called spades, it's dangerous to let these stories fly around otherwise. We're gonna just sweep that under the rug???,....

I double-dog dare anyone to attempt to explain why this wasn't a suicide.


I do agree that he's a simpleton, to believe that I also believe that he was manipulated though. Stories like this make me proud to be a HS drop-out. This dude and his family actually paid for brainwashing and then he went and killed himself.

Now my friends, thats poetry.
 
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This story reminds me of that kid who hijacked the plane months back and crashed it and killed himself. Mental Health issue thru and thru. Listening to that kid on that radio crack and say he wish he could take it back and not do it... was truly heartbreaking, I hope one day soon I can forget that footage.


I believe a similar moment happened for this kid, tho the stories reads like he absolutely couidn't take a hint. I bet probably somewhere around a minute before they killed him, that moment occured, he finally took the hint, and understood the gravity of the situation, "I ****ed up", but it was far too late...... and to me I think about that moment and all the ****ing PARENTS/ADULTS who failed the kid, that led him to that point. Clear as day MENTAL HEALTH ISSUE, yet it went undetected(probably by a bunch of holier than thou college grads).

This kid didn't need to be helping people, he needed help himself...
 
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Did he think he was gonna integrate himself like Colonel Kurtz in Apocalypse now? Is this some sort of Dances With Wolves situation? maybe he had a thing for native women???

What was his endgame really? there was none. this is just an extravagant suicide.
 
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I read an article years ago that claimed ~50,000 people world-wide are admitted to psych facilities each year claiming to speak to god, be god, be the son of god, etc.

Sounds about right. The thing that kills me is the phrasing of the articles on the Island Incident. there's an opportunity to mention something important and EXTREMELY relevant, (more relevant than the fluff their typing) and they BALK at the opportunity.... Shame on them! I spy with my little eye; more college grads that are actually ****** at their jobs......
 
Hard to understand how the guy could be that clueless and careless. Both toward himself, and these people. I think uncontacted people should be left alone wherever they are found. Survival International defines uncontacted not as people who have never been in contact with the modern world, but rather people who want no further contact. So they may have trade goods and be aware there is a bigger world out there, but prefer isolation.

Here is the statement from Survival International:

http://www.survivalinternational.org/news/12031

And a statement from a Christian organization that keeps track of Christian persecution. In an earlier statement, since revised, they called for arrest and prosecution. I think someone must have clued them in on details that had escaped them, but their revised statement is not much better, and if the point is to protect these people from contact, then they miss the point.

https://www.persecution.org/2018/11/20/american-missionary-reportedly-murdered-hostile-tribe-india/


They're have been detentions of individuals that helped this man:

https://www.thenewsminute.com/artic...-obtain-week-long-custody-three-accused-92078
 
footage from 1974:



And from 1991:



This is not North Sentinel, but from the Amazon. Cool footage if you've never seen it before. From Survival International:

 
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Darkwing Duck said:
And that's the biggest difference in anthropologists and missionaries.

Anthropologists want to learn that tribe's culture
Missionaries want to destroy it.
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Well intended people shouldn't want to destroy a culture seen as treating human beings in an inhumane manner? Are you castigating missionaries for wanting to do what's in their power to end human suffering? While at the same time championing respect for a culture? Anthropologists just want to observe and obtain an understanding of how these people are, right? Observe them as you would an animal, left alone in their natural habitat?

Leaving barbarics alone to rape and pillage and cause others to suffer tremendously because you want anthropologists to observe from afar and document. Not trying to change because inflicting terror on others should be left be because we should respect culture for the sake of respecting culture. A sanctity, respecting human rights violations because it is culturally culture cult?

I see no point in that. At least the missionaries think they are spreading a way of life that brings joy and ends abusiveness. What do the anthropologists do? Observe a starving child in Africa and then commit suicide allegedly over the discomfort doing that caused.
 
Who are you to say what is moral or not to people who have been living in a certain way for countless generations?

Or are you making the argument that anyone not of your culture is barbaric and rape and pillage each other.

Suicide is more rampant in Mormon culture than any tribal culture. Does that bring joy?
 
Darkwing Duck said:
Who are you to say what is moral or not to people who have been living in a certain way for countless generations?

Or are you making the argument that anyone not of your culture is barbaric and rape and pillage each other.

Suicide is more rampant in Mormon culture than any tribal culture. Does that bring joy?
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I'm asking a question and trying to understand the philosophy. Who am I to stand up for injustices of another the way I see them as gross mistreatment? Yeah, I'm nobody, my opinion doesn't truly matter. But should I ascribe to a philosophy that respects culture over what we see as common human rights violations? A philosophy that seemingly is based out of being against religious indoctrination but protecting the same exact thing here?
 
Darkwing Duck said:
Who are you to say what is moral or not to people who have been living in a certain way for countless generations?

Or are you making the argument that anyone not of your culture is barbaric and rape and pillage each other.

Suicide is more rampant in Mormon culture than any tribal culture. Does that bring joy?
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IDK man, some of these tribes do some really ****ed up ****. Like I was reading about one where the ritual for becoming a man is to blow the tribe leader and then let him **** you.

I would feel pretty confident in saying that is not moral. Also, I don't think inbreeding is moral because of the side effects, which I'm sure is happening on that small island.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
IDK man, some of these tribes do some really ****ed up ****. Like I was reading about one where the ritual for becoming a man is to blow the tribe leader and then let him **** you.

I would feel pretty confident in saying that is not moral. Also, I don't think inbreeding is moral because of the side effects, which I'm sure is happening on that small island.
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So? They have a different cultural narrative. They probably see it as an honor.
 
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