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CJ to the Cavs

MoTown16 said:
Brian T. Smith must have been in love with CJ.

"Then the promise of the highly athletic Miles began to shine through. He averaged at least 9.1 points in 2008-09 and 2009-10, and a strong showing in the 2010 playoffs — 14.4 average points on 44.3 percent shooting in 10 games — provided a glimpse at the talent inherent in an 18-year-old prospect Utah initially wooed away from the University of Texas.

A career season followed. Miles averaged highs in points (12.8), rebounds (3.3) and minutes (25.2) in 2010-11. He scored a career-high 40 points on 14-of-18 shooting against Minnesota on March 16, 2011; he drilled 7 of 10 3-pointers in only 30 minutes against Portland on Nov. 20, 2010.

But at the same time Miles showed signs of taking off, Utah fell apart. Sloan resigned in February 2011. Less than two weeks later, Williams — Miles’ closest and longtime friend on the Jazz — was shockingly traded. Miles never fully clicked with new coach Tyrone Corbin, and the high-volume shooter’s negative traits on the court were no longer glossed over by the organization. Even w hen Miles displayed improved man-to-man defense or offensive shot selection, statistics such as a 38.1 shooting percentage in 2011-12 or his inconsistent overall performance were offered as counterpoints."

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Yep Brian, career highs of 13/3 should be enough to cement a starting position anywhere. And after 7 years, don't you think a shooter should be better than 38%? Miles showed signs of taking off? Ummm, how about his shooting percentage declining for 4 straight seasons? He was taking off, all right; it just wasn't in the right direction.

Based on this one article, I'd nominate Brian for the hacker's HOF.

And BTW, what's the scoop he was supposed to post at 10:00. Haven't seen anything yet.
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Milsap extension discussions?
 
theNBAnerd said:
i don't think smith said anything that wasn't fairly factual. he didn't say anything about cementing a role as starter, he just mentions the year that CJ had career highs -- which they were -- and says that CJ kept showing flashes of his potential but was always held back by one weakness or another. i don't think there's anything in there that is the least bit "hack"ish. i haven't read the full article, but the portion you posted sounds pretty partial to me.
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Sounded slanted to me, especially when he talks about Miles showing improved defense and shot selection, but percentage or inconsistency was "offered" as a counterpoint. Not that those observations were valid, just that they were "offered" as rebuttals to the improvement he showed on defense (agree with that) and shot selection (disagree, it's always been questionable and the %'s reflect that).
 
MoTown16 said:
Yep Brian, career highs of 13/3 should be enough to cement a starting position anywhere. And after 7 years, don't you think a shooter should be better than 38%? Miles showed signs of taking off? Ummm, how about his shooting percentage declining for 4 straight seasons? He was taking off, all right; it just wasn't in the right direction.
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You're just not using the right stats. How about some "advanced metrics" over his last four seasons?

PER (15.0 is an average NBA player)
11.8 --> 10.8 --> 14.4 --> 12.4

True Shooting % (weighted toward 3pters)
.546 --> .515 --> .507 --> .484

Win Shares (wins contributed by player to team total)
2.9 --> 1.9 --> 2.5 --> 1.5

You'd have to be an idiot not to see the signs of taking off in those numbers.
 
The biggest problem with CJ, was that he was a lights out shooter in practice, but was just never able to find that kind of consistencey in games. The Jazz were right to try and develop him around a shooting game for several years, but I thought it was pretty clear during his last few years that they should have switched to trying to develop his offensive game more around drive and dish/shoot. If somebody figures that out, he can still have a pretty decent career, IMO.
 
freakazoid said:
The biggest problem with CJ, was that he was a lights out shooter in practice, but was just never able to find that kind of consistencey in games. The Jazz were right to try and develop him around a shooting game for several years, but I thought it was pretty clear during his last few years that they should have switched to trying to develop his offensive game more around drive and dish/shoot. If somebody figures that out, he can still have a pretty decent career, IMO.
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Have you talked to Bolerhack about this yet? Was he crying?
 
Nice sig, Naos. Only one problem...my mother passed away long before Millsap was drafted (or even in college).
Try again.
 
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