Clarkson Likely to Get Extension

[Isaiah 1:13]

Kinda surprised at the reception around here after the guy took it upon himself to orchestrate that miracle finish. Dude basically carried us through that fourth quarter and then down five 1:23 to go then proceeds to score nine consecutive points in a minute's time giving us the four point cushion we needed with about 41 ticks left. His awareness to rise for that second three sandwiched between two defenders with LeVert on his *** was the stuff of genius. It took a miracle finish to beat that team with Mitchell putting on a clinic. Even Don gave the guy props, 'He had that look in his eye and I was just like, damn, it's going to be one of those back-and-forth nights,'' Mitchell said.

Anyway, Ryan don't care what you guys think and we're only a couple million away from the asking price. Truth is, I was ready to trade his *** after his dumb shenanigans in the last game. But the guy can bring it when most on our team can't. He can go toe to toe with Don who is playing in rarified air this year. He's a helluva player still playing at a high level.

 

[Jingled]

Kinda surprised at the reception around here after the guy took it upon himself to orchestrate that miracle finish. Dude basically carried us through that fourth quarter and then down five 1:23 to go then proceeds to score nine consecutive points in a minute's time giving us the four point cushion we needed with about 41 ticks left. His awareness to rise for that second three sandwiched between two defenders with LeVert on his *** was the stuff of genius. It took a miracle finish to beat that team with Mitchell putting on a clinic. Even Don gave the guy props, 'He had that look in his eye and I was just like, damn, it's going to be one of those back-and-forth nights,'' Mitchell said.

Anyway, Ryan don't care what you guys think and we're only a couple million away from the asking price. Truth is, I was ready to trade his *** after his dumb shenanigans in the last game. But the guy can bring it when most on our team can't. He can go toe to toe with Don who is playing in rarified air this year. He's a helluva player still playing at a high level.

I mean, there's only been one comment since the game ended...every other comment in this thread was made before tonight's game.

 

[Isaiah 1:13]

I mean, there's only been once comment since the game ended...every other comment in this thread was made before tonight's game.

Hey, I'm not trying to put anyone on a guilt trip. As I said, I was ready to trade him after the Memphis game and even posted something to that effect. Just a little bit surprised after such an impressive game from him that there wasn't a little more recognition, game thread included.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

I mean, there's only been once comment since the game ended...every other comment in this thread was made before tonight's game.

My comment had nothing to do with the Cavs game. The (trade) value of a guy can't hinge on a single game performance anyway. It's about the long run. When you sign guys in this league, expectations of future performance are built into the deal, and this is even more important when the player is in the tail end of their career and will inevitably slow down at some point. JC plays a super athletic position and it's just very tough to keep up when youre 30 to 35.

Obviously he put the team on his back in crunch time against the Cavs and willed the team to a win, but at his age you just can't count on anything like that happening with any regularity in the future. He's not getting any quicker or younger. We've already seen Clarkson's play go up and down all season.

As I said above, IMO he has a place on this team as a bench scorer in the coming years if he wants it, but I suspect he's looking to get paid like a starter now.

 

[Agent#00]

Kinda surprised at the reception around here after the guy took it upon himself to orchestrate that miracle finish. Dude basically carried us through that fourth quarter and then down five 1:23 to go then proceeds to score nine consecutive points in a minute's time giving us the four point cushion we needed with about 41 ticks left. His awareness to rise for that second three sandwiched between two defenders with LeVert on his *** was the stuff of genius. It took a miracle finish to beat that team with Mitchell putting on a clinic. Even Don gave the guy props, 'He had that look in his eye and I was just like, damn, it's going to be one of those back-and-forth nights,'' Mitchell said.

Anyway, Ryan don't care what you guys think and we're only a couple million away from the asking price. Truth is, I was ready to trade his *** after his dumb shenanigans in the last game. But the guy can bring it when most on our team can't. He can go toe to toe with Don who is playing in rarified air this year. He's a helluva player still playing at a high level.

Ryan and JC hugging after the game tells me they're tight. Never saw an owner and a player have this level of relationship. I fully expect Clarkson to stay and get paid

 

[gomretat]

I'll go ahead and draw my line in the sand and say that I hope we don't extend Clarkson, especially since he is asking for more money than he can get in an extension. I like JC quite a bit. I also think what he does is extremely valuable (get buckets while closely guarded), but I just don't love the other parts of his game, and also don't think our window matches his.

As such I hope we trade him and get as much value for him as possible.

A lot of why Ryan Smith wants JC around goes beyond JC as a basketball player. Smith wants and needs JC because JC likes Utah, is a good locker room guy, and helps with the image that Smith wants to create about his team and about Utah. That combination might make it so that we overpay. Smith is big on managing image and he has a clear image he wants to portray.

 

[416Klawzz]

Kinda surprised at the reception around here after the guy took it upon himself to orchestrate that miracle finish. Dude basically carried us through that fourth quarter and then down five 1:23 to go then proceeds to score nine consecutive points in a minute's time giving us the four point cushion we needed with about 41 ticks left. His awareness to rise for that second three sandwiched between two defenders with LeVert on his *** was the stuff of genius. It took a miracle finish to beat that team with Mitchell putting on a clinic. Even Don gave the guy props, 'He had that look in his eye and I was just like, damn, it's going to be one of those back-and-forth nights,'' Mitchell said.

Anyway, Ryan don't care what you guys think and we're only a couple million away from the asking price. Truth is, I was ready to trade his *** after his dumb shenanigans in the last game. But the guy can bring it when most on our team can't. He can go toe to toe with Don who is playing in rarified air this year. He's a helluva player still playing at a high level.

Clarkson is not without flaws but damn he is so lethal when he is on and crucial to our offense .... We need him! His offense makes up for his mishaps when he is flaming on

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

So he bought a mansion in San Antonio, his home town. He could be moving there or nearby team no?

Or he just wants a big *** party mansion for his family.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I really dont think 60/3 is that much of an overpay.

He's way way way way better than Collin Sexton, who is paid 70/4.

 

[Elizah Huge]

I really dont think 60/3 is that much of an overpay.

He's way way way way better than Collin Sexton, who is paid 70/4.

I don’t think it’s an overpay either. Problem is we can’t offer him that much until he hits FA.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I don’t think it’s an overpay either. Problem is we can’t offer him that much until he hits FA.

IF that's the case, offer him the max extension possible. If he's turning it down, IDK why this is even a story about negotiations.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

It's pretty clear to me Clarkson is highly underrated by this board.

We havent given him nearly enough praise for averaging 21-5-4 on solid efficiency while in a new role.

 

[seattlejazzfan]

trade him today. sell high. otherwise you risk losing him in FA for nothing. he had a chance to agree to an extension, he turned it down (i don't blame him, ftr), but now you gotta trade him so you can get value for him.

granted, i would be picky - not out there giving him away. need a significant return.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

trade him today. sell high. otherwise you risk losing him in FA for nothing. he had a chance to agree to an extension, he turned it down (i don't blame him, ftr), but now you gotta trade him so you can get value for him.

granted, i would be picky - not out there giving him away. need a significant return.

Yeah, but if what EH is saying is true, his extension number is pretty far under his actual value. I dont think him turning down an extension is him saying he doesnt want to be in Utah. He just wants to be paid his value. No way in hell is he making less money than Collin Sexton.

 

[fishonjazz]

trade him today. sell high. otherwise you risk losing him in FA for nothing. he had a chance to agree to an extension, he turned it down (i don't blame him, ftr), but now you gotta trade him so you can get value for him.

granted, i would be picky - not out there giving him away. need a significant return.

Ya i agree. Should have traded conley and KO when their value was highest. Though I like him and would be fine keeping him im not sure he ever gets better than he is playing this season which is a throw away empty numbers kind of season.
In 3 years when we are hopefully making a deep run at a title I doubt he will be as good as he was last night and is this season.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I don’t think it’s an overpay either. Problem is we can’t offer him that much until he hits FA.

I think we can get pretty close to the number. If he is turning it down it is a little problematic imo.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

It's pretty clear to me Clarkson is highly underrated by this board.

We havent given him nearly enough praise for averaging 21-5-4 on solid efficiency while in a new role.

He's been better than Poole and Jordan got the full damn bag. I think he is worth 3/60.... I am just worried a terrible team offers 3/75 or something kinda wild... if he walked at that point then fine... he doesn't have enormous trade value, but say we "matched" the offer and its more like 3/80. I think DL paying like 20% too much on every deal has me worried. I also didn't expect us to be married to JC and Sexton long term... I suppose we could get Anthony Black or Cason Wallace and that 3 guard setup might be pretty solid.

 

[Elizah Huge]

I think we can get pretty close to the number. If he is turning it down it is a little problematic imo.

3/56 or 4/78 is essentially what we can offer if I’m not mistaken.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Yeah, but if what EH is saying is true, his extension number is pretty far under his actual value. I dont think him turning down an extension is him saying he doesnt want to be in Utah. He just wants to be paid his value. No way in hell is he making less money than Collin Sexton.

He definitely should make more than Sexton. I’m not exactly sure what fair value is. Is it 3/65? 4/80? More?

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

3/56 or 4/78 is essentially what we can offer if I’m not mistaken.

Yeah I am not sure on the rules but that sounds like the right ballpark. If he is looking for 3/60 those would be close enough. If he turns those down it isn't because he wants like 10% more... it is because he is looking for something more like what CJ McCollum got... he got 3/100M. So if a good offer comes along I would probably be inclined to take that instead of risk FA or pay JC 3/80ish.