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Saint Cy of JFC said:
I think there may be a comfort with how open Trump is about this stuff, or how he is incapable of hiding it. PC culture has made people untrustworthy because of how robotic and scripted public officials can be.

Think about it, any time Trump attempts to pass any type of discriminatory (racist/sexist/homophobic/etc) type of policy it's going to be highly scrutinized. Anytime he passes any kind of legislation that may not benefit lower class minorities, it will be scrutinized.

With democrats like Obama there is an assumption that he has the lower class minorities best interest at heart and wouldn't do anything to go against his voter base, which is probably false. That makes for a less politically engaged public.
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I don't disagree with how tired people are of the PC world which was probably a fairly large reason as to why he won. People trusted him. That said, I was simply replying as to candrew's point.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
If you put 10 people in front of me I wouldn't even know who Tim Kaine was. I literally can not remember anything about Tim Kaine other than he could speak Spanish.

Pence, while I hated the choice, secured a huge demographic of the population for Trump.
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He's the one who looks like he just took home the Gold at the Special Olympics.


(Not that there is anything wrong with Special Olympics. Big fan.)
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
I think there may be a comfort with how open Trump is about this stuff, or how he is incapable of hiding it. PC culture has made people untrustworthy because of how robotic and scripted public officials can be.

Think about it, any time Trump attempts to pass any type of discriminatory (racist/sexist/homophobic/etc) type of policy it's going to be highly scrutinized. Anytime he passes any kind of legislation that may not benefit lower class minorities, it will be scrutinized.

With democrats like Obama there is an assumption that he has the lower class minorities best interest at heart and wouldn't do anything to go against his voter base, which is probably false. That makes for a less politically engaged public.
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I agree with this assessment. But I would take it a step further and recognize that most people understand that their personal circle of friends are rarely 100% politically correct, so when a public person is so carefully scripted they come across as completely disingenuous, if not outright dishonest.
 
UGLI baby said:
Agreed. Had to be some sort of back room deal or something? I dunno, but the point couldn't have been for him to help her get more votes.
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He was the head of the DNC back in 2011 before wasserman-Schultz/brazile took over. The theory goes that he was promised the vp spot for stepping down and letting them take over.
 
https://medium.com/@mtracey/yes-bernie-sanders-would-have-defeated-trump-acc34636f96#.8d4mbzftu

Pretty good article on how teh Bern would have beaten Trump.

Sanders also would have outperformed Hillary among black voters for the same reasons he would’ve outperformed her among all voters: she was a corrupt, decadent, cold, militaristic avatar of a failed status quo who had no argument for her candidacy other than “TRUMP! BAD!!!!” — this despite seeking the presidency for literally 10 years.
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fgcamel said:
Although according to wikipedia, he was also on the shortlist for Obama's VP. So, maybe he is just a good politician, which would also explain why he's such a boring pick.
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It might have been with how arrogant they were about their odds to win. Maybe her camp thought they could get away without pandering for votes with a VP and instead someone who had pull within the system.
 
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