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Clinton with a decent lead over Trump in new poll

Imagine if Dems actually had a good candidate. So much for babe's idiotic "real people" theory.
 
ONE LOVE said:
What was the theory?
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Something about us progressives, who apparently make up less than 20% of the population, being out of touch with the "real people" of America, who are not satisfied with the status quo, and see Trump as their best choice.
 
Unless you want a president with the maturity, self-control and temperament of a six-year-old, it has to be good news.
 
Siro said:
Go Clinton! Kick that orangutan's ***.
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Siro said:
Something about us progressives, who apparently make up less than 20% of the population, being out of touch with the "real people" of America, who are not satisfied with the status quo, and see Trump as their best choice.
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MVP said:
So lesser evil is winning. Either way America is screwed.
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Jonah said:
Unless you want a president with the maturity, self-control and temperament of a six-year-old, it has to be good news.
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All these
 
MVP said:
So lesser evil is winning. Either way America is screwed.
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Like I've said before, as trendy as such statements are, they are complete nonsense. Clinton will be more or less the same as every president since Reagan. Just another establishment president, in what has been a very successful country. It is not the ideal choice, but is an acceptable choice.
 
I really hope the lead just builds and builds and kills the Republican party. Hillary will be a fine president. She is no bill, or even Obama, but she is far better than Trump.

My hope for this election is that the libertarians get federal matching funds next time as well as get in the debates this time, and that the Republican party emerges as something that isn't a puke fest in four years.

Also, who thinks mark Cuban could win as a Republican in 8 years?
 
b_line said:
I really hope the lead just builds and builds and kills the Republican party. Hillary will be a fine president. She is no bill, or even Obama, but she is far better than Trump.

My hope for this election is that the libertarians get federal matching funds next time as well as get in the debates this time, and that the Republican party emerges as something that isn't a puke fest in four years.

Also, who thinks mark Cuban could win as a Republican in 8 years?
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Oh yeah I hope the GOP dies so we can have 100 percent taxes an a nation that looks like Detroit Chicago an St. Louis. A true liberal dream utopia with no business no jobs an rampant crime an pollution.
 
ElRoach0 said:
You took her seriously?
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Eh. There was a time I kind of, almost, liked babe. Before I realized he's one of the most unreasonable people you'll meet. Regardless of what you say, he'll make a caricature of you in his head, and proceed to respond to that caricature with the same senile wall-of-text every time. It's like talking to a chat bot designed by a lunatic.
 
Siro said:
Eh. There was a time I kind of, almost, liked babe. Before I realized he's one of the most unreasonable people you'll meet. Regardless of what you say, he'll make a caricature of you in his head, and proceed to respond to that caricature with the same senile wall-of-text every time. It's like talking to a chat bot designed by a lunatic.
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I'm sorry you can't see through the art. babe is one of the best.
 
Siro said:
Like I've said before, as trendy as such statements are, they are complete nonsense. Clinton will be more or less the same as every president since Reagan. Just another establishment president, in what has been a very successful country. It is not the ideal choice, but is an acceptable choice.
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For the Hillary haters, I wonder how many can actually talk in an informed way about the specific policy positions she advocates to which they object, which makes her such an unpalatable candidate.

Or, is their objection to her based largely on objections to things such as private email server, Clinton Foundation (as if most other elected or former public officials don't also sell influence), irrational hatred, which has existed since back to Clinton Presidency, or personality issues unrelated to her capacity to governm (e.g., not dynamic, bitchy, etc.)? (None of which, IMHO, makes her an unacceptable candidate--and I'd say that for any Republican candidate as well). My guess is that the average Clinton hater relies much more heavily on the latter rather than the former.

As noted, she is establishment through and through, as have been nearly all other serious Presidential candidates and winners and will likely govern as such, although probably with a bit of a progressive bent in terms of social policies, reasonably muscular foreign policy, but, like Obama and those before him, with her lips surgically implanted on Wall Street's ***.
 
But will she be for or against teh pot?
 
fishonjazz said:
But will she be for or against teh pot?
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Damn, man. How far have we come? Just 20 years ago Bill “I didn't inhale, and I didn't try it again” and now at least half the society is for legalization. I would guess about 75% would vote for legalization as about 60% of adults have partaken. I'm guessing a whole lot more who have not would legalize.
 
franklin said:
Damn, man. How far have we come? Just 20 years ago Bill “I didn't inhale, and I didn't try it again” and now at least half the society is for legalization. I would guess about 75% would vote for legalization as about 60% of adults have partaken. I'm guessing a whole lot more who have not would legalize.
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I think if Hillary is elected we see federal decriminalization
 
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