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TheMulletMutilator said:
Aldrich hasn't proven to be a better center or power forward in the NBA so this is all conjecture. I could have said last year that Gasol was a good power forward and Thabeet was a good center. None of the guys in the draft have proven a thing yet. Some of them look very nice.
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Aldrich isn't in the NBA yet. After his first game in the NBA he will be a better center in the NBA than Horford. As it sits he's just a better center.
 
squareinthecircle said:
That's a fact.
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A fact would have statistics to back it up. Aldrich has never played an NBA game so there is no way you could say he is a better center. When you get a nice sample size and are comfortable with making that assessment then go ahead. But you currently don't have proof other than you saying he is better.
 
TheMulletMutilator said:
A fact would have statistics to back it up. Aldrich has never played an NBA game so there is no way you could say he is a better center. When you get a nice sample size and are comfortable with making that assessment then go ahead. But you currently don't have proof other than you saying he is better.
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No I meant what I had quoted was a fact. It is fact that what I said was opinion and not fact.

Also you're throwing in the words "in the NBA" into the mix, attempting to put words in my mouth- stop. I have made it abundantly clear that I am aware Aldrich hasn't played in the NBA. Let it go- you're using it as a red herring.

And I have as much or more evidence as you do regarding the potential of Aldrich so if you're attempting to point that out to make yourself look more credible it won't work.
 
None of these guys have played in the NBA - so saying "Aldrich has never played an NBA game" just makes me roll my eyes. Duh.

It's all conjecture. Duh.

Your rebuttal offers nothing to the discussion.

Go get a haircut.
 
squareinthecircle said:
According to Cole he was as surprised as everyone else at his height without shoes that day, and has said he has measured taller at every team workout. Also you're comparing Aldrich's vertical reach with the wingspan of Favors and Whiteside- different stats.

All season long people preach how they want what Aldrich brings to the table but few place enough value on it to draft a player with those qualities. The wisest team in this draft will be the one that selects Cole Aldrich.

BTW had to laugh at the Whiteside-is-the-next-KG comment. That guy has bust written all over him in several languages.
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My bad...I typed 9 instead of 12 for Whiteside and Favors...the point was still obviously the same. Thanks for the catch.
 
billyshelby said:
The Aldrich/Horford comparisons are ludicrous. Horford is a fantastic athlete even by NBA standards. Aldrich is a mediocre athlete by NBA standards. No NBA person would ever choose Aldrich over Horford, or even consider them the same caliber of player.
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Re-read my post carefully. I projected Aldrich's production to similar to Horford's, not necessarily that their games or specific talents are identical. Pretty big difference. Even if you want to make that comparison, there is no doubt Horford is stronger, but I seriously doubt Horford is significantly more agile that Aldrich, if at all. Look at the times Aldrich has posted at the pre-draft combine and you will be surprised at how well he did.

EDIT: In fact, now that I look it up, Aldrich was timed at 11.48 secs in agility drills, Horford was timed at 12.15 secs, which is a substantial difference. If you want to compare that to other prospect's times in this draft, Aldrich was faster than Daniel Orton, James Anderson, Greg Monroe, Sherron Collins, Hassan Whiteside, Derrick Favors, Ed Davis, Gani Lawal, Jarvis Varnardo, and Gordon Hayward among many others. And his time was nearly identical to a Avery Bradley, a PG. Horford and Aldrich's times in the 3/4 court sprint were nearly identical (Aldrich was 3.35 and Horford was 3.37). Pretty damn impressive for a player who is supposed to become Greg Ostertag in the NBA according to some on here.

https://www.draftexpress.com/nba-pr...7&sort2=DESC&draft=0&pos=0&source=All&sort=16
https://www.draftexpress.com/nba-pr...010&sort2=DESC&draft=&pos=&source=All&sort=16
 
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TheMulletMutilator said:
A fact would have statistics to back it up. Aldrich has never played an NBA game so there is no way you could say he is a better center. When you get a nice sample size and are comfortable with making that assessment then go ahead. But you currently don't have proof other than you saying he is better.
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And you don't have proof to support your assertions...and haven't ever this whole time we've discussed Aldrich over several threads. All you keep saying is that Aldrich will become Ostertag because he is a big man and is from Kansas. Solid argument. What a hypocrite.
 
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TheMulletMutilator said:
Agreed, why do people think Aldrich will someday average 12-15 points a game with 10 Rebounds and 2 blocks? I have been openly against drafting the guy since day one. But those numbers are just too fantastic to believe.
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Please explain why is it hard to believe (although you probably can't give a legitimate reason). It's not because of a lack of work ethic. It's not because he has Ostertag-like mobility and hands. It's not because he lacks defensive ability. It's not because he's not a very efficient offensive player. Because all of those things have been proven to be not true, among many others things. I'm anxious to actually hear some real reasons why those numbers aren't achievable.
 
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