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Collin Cowherd's Rock Band Bracket

Just for ***** and giggs, if I had to choose three bands for a desert island, they would surely be The Beatles, Zeppelin and U2. In what order I do not know. Probably Zeppelin, The Beatles, and then U2.
 
YB85 said:
Queen is not even in the discussion when debating "Greatest Rock and Roll Band Ever". They were great musicians and Freddie Mercury was as good a singer as there's been. But they had one great album. Just one. They had some other great songs, but best ever should have more than one great album. My mind is pretty closed when it comes to the title of greatest RnR band ever, but I will agree that cases can be made for The Stones, Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, and U2. Any other arugments are null and void in my opinion.
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Agree to disagree. I would qualify Queen, Queen II, Sheer Heart Attack, Night at the Opera, The Game, and Innuendo as great albums. NATO is the only one that stands against The Wall and Dark Side of the Moon, but the rest blow away everything else Pink Floyd ever did.

How can you talk about great albums and qualify The Stones, they were a great band who made great hit, but I haven't heard one Stones album all the way through that made me **** myself.
 
One thing you gotta understand, Floyd's got a handful of albums considered essential, not just the two most famous ones. My friend who's a huge Floyd guy swears by Animals, for what its worth. I haven't listened to it.
 
Lance-A-Million said:
One thing you gotta understand, Floyd's got a handful of albums considered essential, not just the two most famous ones. My friend who's a huge Floyd guy swears by Animals, for what its worth. I haven't listened to it.
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I like Pink Floyd, but one thing about PF, is if you're not trying to go to sleep or get high... pink floyd can't really do that much for you. All other great bands in the building, cover every end of the spectrum...
When was the last time you heard Pink Floyd at a sporting event.
 
Animals is under appreciated, for sure. But what about Wish You Were Here? I think that album is as complete as any Queen album. Certainly not obscure.

Pink Floyd is not for everyone, especially the early Syd Barrett stuff. But you can't argue that they aren't an important institution in rock history.
 
The-Joker said:
How can you talk about great albums and qualify The Stones, they were a great band who made great hit, but I haven't heard one Stones album all the way through that made me **** myself.
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From "Beggar's Banquet" through "Exile On Main Street", the Rolling Stones had one of the greatest album runs ever. I could make a case that "Let It Bleed" is the best rock album ever. Try it out someday. It's $5 this month on Amazon mp3.
 
KrazeeEyezKilla said:
I think YB's main point, and correct e if I'm wrong YB, is that U2's stuff, album to album is vastly different. Was their evolution linear? No, you make a valid point. But they evolved (or devolved) album to album, for better or worse.
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That's pretty much the point. Kicky was right in that U2 abandoned their Euro Disco sound of the 90's to reconnect with their audience, but I still think that the content of "No Line on the Horizon" is different from anything from their pre-Achtung Baby days. Maybe money has mellowed their political bent, maybe age, but they are not the same as they were 25 years ago. It's not lineal, but it's noticeable.
 
YB85 said:
From "Beggar's Banquet" through "Exile On Main Street", the Rolling Stones had one of the greatest album runs ever. I could make a case that "Let It Bleed" is the best rock album ever. Try it out someday. It's $5 this month on Amazon mp3.
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A few years back when I first became re-interested in Classic Rock I purchased the those albums and some others, and was surprised at how many songs I had a casual knowledge of, that were actually Stones classics. To argue that the Stones are not Rock Gods, is to argue that the Earth is Flat. It makes for an interesting conversation, but ultimately doesn't hold up. The Beatles (and I love them too) wanted to hold your hand, but the Stones wanted to spend the night together.
 
Bronco70 said:
Animals is under appreciated, for sure. But what about Wish You Were Here? I think that album is as complete as any Queen album. Certainly not obscure.

Pink Floyd is not for everyone, especially the early Syd Barrett stuff. But you can't argue that they aren't an important institution in rock history.
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Wish You Were Here is good...
 
My favorite (not saying "best") Pink Floyd album is "The Final Cut". It's not for everyone, and most Floyd fans would argue that it's really just a Roger Waters album. I don't care, it's still my favorite.
 
Boondocksaint27 said:
A few years back when I first became re-interested in Classic Rock I purchased the those albums and some others, and was surprised at how many songs I had a casual knowledge of, that were actually Stones classics. To argue that the Stones are not Rock Gods, is to argue that the Earth is Flat. It makes for an interesting conversation, but ultimately doesn't hold up. The Beatles (and I love them too) wanted to hold your hand, but the Stones wanted to spend the night together.
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Agreed.

For me though, and this is just me perhaps, I love the Beatles, Zeppelin and U2 because I not only love their music but can connect with them on some deeply emotional level. The Stones don't really do that for me. Or at least rarely do.
 
Let me just say that I like the Stones a lot and know about 30-40 of their songs pretty well...just don't do "it" for me as deeply.
 
There is another band that came close to being in my consideration and that's The Who. For me, much of their stuff just doesn't pass the time test for me. "Tommy" and "Quadrophenia" are too full of filler and some of the early stuff is too dated. But if I was putting my contenders for greatest rock album ever together, "Who's Next" is on the short list. What a great album.
 
YB85 said:
My favorite (not saying "best") Pink Floyd album is "The Final Cut". It's not for everyone, and most Floyd fans would argue that it's really just a Roger Waters album. I don't care, it's still my favorite.
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It's certainly Waters at his angriest.
 
YB85 said:
There is another band that came close to being in my consideration and that's The Who. For me, much of their stuff just doesn't pass the time test for me. "Tommy" and "Quadrophenia" are too full of filler and some of the early stuff is too dated. But if I was putting my contenders for greatest rock album ever together, "Who's Next" is on the short list. What a great album.
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Funny. I had a few sentences typed about them saying essentially the same. As far as talent goes, band member to band member, they can match just about any group. They were amazing performers. They had some hits. But just not enough for me. Baba. Won't Get Fooled Again. I have a personal fave in Reign O'er Me. And some others. But only the former two REALLY stand out.
 
YB85 said:
"Out Door" was the sound of a great band staying around too long, continuing the sad spiral down that was "Presence". "Out Door" had 2-3 good moments, but the rest of it was pure ****. I have a hard time getting through it anymore. Hell, it sucked so bad that John Bonham drank 40 vodka shots just to drown out the taste of "Carouselambra" and chose choking on his own vomit over touring and playing "I'm Gonna Crawl" again. In retrospect, Led Zeppelin should have called it a day after "Physical Graffiti". Then they would have gone out on top. Instead, they lumbered along until Bonzo put Ol Yeller down.
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I love the synth's and I'm a big fan of 80's music which is why I love that album so much. Even Coda had a couple of really good jams, of which some were early 70's b-sides I think.

YB85 said:
having two of the best albums ever ("Joshua Tree" and "Achtung Baby"), along with another 3-4 excellent albums puts them in the conversation.
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You shouldn't be surprised to find out that I love Pop. Not my favorite though.
 
Lance-A-Million said:
Also - its obvious to me that U2 made some sort of massive cultural imprint before I was born and in the early years of my life... so that's a force that I know I cannot reckon with. I'll have to defer to you more... "venerable" gents with respect to that. That won't stop me from my own revisionism when I get up there, however
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Buy every U2 album from 1983-2004. It's essential stuff.


I bought The Wall when I was 18 and didn't care for it. Never could get into Pink Floyd. DSOTM didn't appeal much to me either.

KrazeeEyezKilla said:
Just for ***** and giggs, if I had to choose three bands for a desert island, they would surely be The Beatles, Zeppelin and U2. In what order I do not know. Probably Zeppelin, The Beatles, and then U2.
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I would replace The Beatles with Guns N' Roses and we're good to go.
 
Lance-A-Million said:
One thing you gotta understand, Floyd's got a handful of albums considered essential, not just the two most famous ones. My friend who's a huge Floyd guy swears by Animals, for what its worth. I haven't listened to it.
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I love Animals. Dogs is in the top 5 of my favorite Floyd songs ever.
 
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