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Colton's plan for the offseason, including how I convince Hayward to stay

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OK, folks, with two days before the start of free agency I couldn't resist making a spreadsheet to look at the real numbers and to figure out what I'd do if I were GM. I looked up all of the appropriate salary numbers but there were some disagreements in the info I found so hopefully I settled on the correct ones. All salary numbers are obviously in millions of dollars.

Here's my plan.

Moves (not necessarily in chronological order):
* Re-sign Hayward for the max which is 29.7 next year. Part of how I do this is I tell him we're so committed to winning that we're planning to spend 10 million over the luxury tax this coming year.
* Re-sign Hill for a 3 or 4 year deal averaging 18-19/year. Depending on details that'll put his next year's cap number around 17.5.
* Re-sign Ingless for just over the MLE, i.e. 8.5 this year
* Sign Milos Teodesic for the same as Ingles
* Sign all three rookies, or if Williams-Goss isn't good enough in camp sign another minimum level player in his place.
* Trade Diaw (7.5 non-guaranteed), Neto (1.47 non-guaranteed), Hood, and Burks for a starter quality big (4/5) plus other assets. Could be multiple trades, i.e. trade Burks for a 2nd (this can be done at the trade deadline in hopes of increasing his value), trade Neto for a 2nd, then trade Diaw and Hood for the backup big. Diaw and Hood are valuable assets--Diaw for the voidable contract and Hood because he's a starter quality player still on rookie deal--so this should land us a starter quality big that we can use to backup Favors. The main point here is to shore up our bigs, looking for someone about at Hood's level or a little above but playing 4/5 and at a salary of up to 10.5. Since Hood is such a much better deal salary-wise, this trade may also net us a future 1st.

This plan depends on Favors and Gobert being able to play next to each other, which I still believe they can. But if Snyder doesn't want to do that very much, or if Favors has injury problems again, then we've still got that starter quality backup big to rely on.

Here's what the roster, salaries, and minutes look like: (in order of projected minutes)

Hayward $29.7 million; 35 mins at the 3
Gobert 21.224719; 35 mins at the 5
Hill 17.5; 30 mins mainly at the 1 and some at the 2
Favors 12; 28 mins at the 4
Ingles 8.5; 28 mins mainly at the 2 and some at the 3
Milos Teodesic 8.5; 21 mins at the 1
Johnson 10.505; 21 mins split between 3 and 4
Exum 4.992385; 20 mins mainly at the 1 and some at the 2
traded for quality C/PF 10.5; 18 mins split between 4 and 5
Mitchell 2.1844; 14 mins at the 2
Bolomboy 1.312611; 8 mins split between 4 and 5
Bradley 1.1791; 6 mins at the 5
Williams-Goss or other minimum player 0.815615; 1 min at the 1 :-)

Total salary = 128.91; luxury tax is 119 so we're 10 million over the tax. Great 8-9 player rotation. (By the way the total minutes add up to 53/player instead of 48/player since players miss games and 53 mins is a common number if I recall correctly.)

I believe this is a substantially better team than this past year. The only major loss is Hood, who I'm replacing mainly with Ingles and Johnson getting time at the 3 and Mitchell (who I think is going to be a very good player) getting time at the 2.

On top of that we've now got Teo as a backup 1, who will be MUCH MUCH better than any of our backup 1's last year. We've got Bolomboy and Bradley as backup 5's, who will be about the same as Withey last year. And we've got the new "quality C/PF" who will be way better than Diaw was last year. This year's Favors will be way better than last year's injured Favors. Plus continued internal development of Gobert, Exum, and maybe to a lesser extent some of the other players.

I think overall this team is about 5 games better than last year's team. Since without injuries last year's team was in my opinion about a 55 win team, I'm predicting this team wins 60 games.

So Hayward stays because (a) more money for him here in Utah, (b) Utah's commitment to winning as demonstrated by going into the luxury tax, and (c) Utah having a real competitive team, a projected 60 win team. Probably good for 2nd team in the West, and if something happens to one of the main Golden State players I think the Jazz could be a real contender for the title. Plus we haven't mortgaged our future; in fact we've added to it with a few draft picks from the trades. Next summer will involve some tough decisions but we have no untradeable contracts should we need to shed a little salary.

Do it, Dennis! :-) :-)
 
I wish you would mention some big man examples for trade.
 
I think it's pretty clear the Jazz have to bring back Hill/Ingles at any cost to keep Hayward. Hayward is using his UFA as a power chip to get Greg Miller to spend money.
 
You worked hard at this. And the effort is appreciated.

But did you get rid of Hood for a big man playing 18 minutes a game? Can't get behind that.
 
I think your numbers are a bit optimistic and hopeful.

I would be absolutely amazed by DL if we could get Hill for $18M-$19M a year, Ingles for $8.5M a year, and Teodosic for $8.5M a year.

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Boston's best case scenario are two teams offering Ingles and Hll ridiculous amounts of money that makes the Jazz balk, which pisses Hayward off, forcing him to Boston.
 
I think people are sleeping on someone offering Ingles 15 million a year. He might take a discount to stay on Utah, but not that much.
 
You worked hard at this. And the effort is appreciated.

But did you get rid of Hood for a big man playing 18 minutes a game? Can't get behind that.

It's more than that if Bolomboy and Bradley can't do much this year, which is a distinct possibility. And obviously more than that if Favors has substantial injury problems again. And it's more than that in future years because Johnson's contract expires in 2018 and he was taking up some PF minutes.
 
I would be absolutely amazed by DL if we could get Hill for $18M-$19M a year, Ingles for $8.5M a year, and Teodosic for $8.5M a year.

Those are my honest predictions which I've mentioned in other threads. Time will tell how close I am, I guess.
 
I don't think there's any way Ingles gets $15M/year from anywhere.
 
ok colton here is my plan

Firstbecome the 3rd team in the cavs pacers trade for George

Jazz trade Diaw, Favors, Hood, burks
Jazz receive Kevin Love

If this move isn't enough to convince Hayward to stay then let him sign with Boston and offer Otto Porter Jr a max (Washington would have a hard time matching)

Re-sign Ingles for what you said above and and Teodosic

Jazz have

Teo, Exum, Neto or NWG
Ingels, Mitchell
Porter, JJ
Love, Bolomboy
Gobert, Bradley

OR

Work a S n T for Poter
Offer max to Ibaka
 
Jazz have

Teo, Exum, Neto or NWG
Ingels, Mitchell
Porter or Hayward, JJ
Love, Bolomboy
Gobert, Bradley

(I added the "or Hayward" to the list above.)

For what it's worth this keeps you ~7 million under the luxury tax, assuming they can get Love in a trade like that.

But you're taking two huge gambles:
(1) The PG situation. There's a real chance (>50% in my opinion) that none of the PGs on your roster are good enough to be a starter for a team going deep in the playoffs.
(2) The bigs. Namely, (a) you've got no backups to give Gobert and Love rest, and (b) if anything happens to Gobert or Love you are completely sunk.

You can perhaps partially address one or two of those items with the remaining 7 million, but not both.
 
Sounds great to me.
It's a step above baking the cake/running it back and I'm happy with that anyway so your plan sounds great.
 
I don't think there's any way Ingles gets $15M/year from anywhere.

Why not? He is coming off a playoff series where he absolutely dominated JJ Redick, a guy who is rumored to be getting in the 15-20 million dollar range of contract offers. Ingles proved himself as an above average defender (who can guard 1-4) and a top 5 spot-up 3pt shooter who can also playmake off the dribble.

15 million is average starter money and Joe Ingles is a starer at the most coveted NBA position (SF). I think 45/3 is nearly a guarantee for him.
 
Count me as someone who doesn't think ingles gets 15 million per
 
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