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Cooper Flagg wants another year in college

Totally agree and highly highly doubt he stays another year,

but NIL has completely changed the game. Before players would be leaving everything on the table. If Dynbantsa can supposedly get multiple millions (I've heard 7 thrown around but don't know), Flagg returning to a really strong Duke may get $10 million+ if their boosters get together. That's not far off from a year one NBA contract from a #1 pick.

Again I highly doubt it, but we are kind of in uncharted waters financially.
Correct. Especially for someone like Cooper who can basically sit out the whole year next year for something like a season ending injury and would still be locked top 5 in the draft next year. There isn't much risk on his draft stock whatsoever. Why work more (82 NBA games vs 30 games in a college season) to earn less?
 
No NIL deal is worth delaying his second contract by another year.
But is it though? With the league constantly changing it's rules on CBA and expanding the "supermax" it's gets evidently more desirable to sign your contract extension later. Just look at Jokic and Jaylen Brown. Just a year ago in 2022, Jokers supermax extension was still 270mil for 5yr. Then one year later...boom! jaylen browns supermax with the Celtics became 304mil for 5 yrs. That's basically one whole year worth of extra earning. Joker sorta screwed himself by signing that deal one year earlier.
 
Correct. Especially for someone like Cooper who can basically sit out the whole year next year for something like a season ending injury and would still be locked top 5 in the draft next year. There isn't much risk on his draft stock whatsoever. Why work more (82 NBA games vs 30 games in a college season) to earn less?
Because Duke has always preached to their players that it isn’t about your rookie deal, it’s about getting a second contract.

Declaring this year puts him a year closer to potentially getting a 200M+ contract.
 
it's like a guy drops his purse full of coins on the ground on the way to give it to a homeless shelter and a bunch of lower middle guys are diving to the ground to grab them before the guy picks them back up. sure, the rich are unfairly rich (lakers) but if we played all our players properly, and tried harder, we aren't the worst team in the nba. in other words, as i've said before and i don't care what people think, but we/the Jazz are LYING. (and stealing basically because the picks should go to teams that need them to save their franchise, not so we can hard shift to the championships.)
I get where you're coming from, but the NBA is set up a certain way, with certain rules, and the Jazz are working within the framework to optimize for success, to help them overcome certain structural disadvantages.

The question that Ryan answered differently than previous ownership- Is our definition of success consistent winning or a championship? Previous ownership was never willing to sacrifice to get over the hump to a championship and chose consistent success. Ryan has answered he is willing to do things differently in order to optimize for a championship.

That necessitates a different set of compromises, and one of those is managing your roster in such a way that winning the current game on your plate is waaaay down on the list and is sometimes even detrimental. But they aren't actively throwing games or point shaving, just optimizing for development and avoiding giving out minutes in such a way that winning the game is more important than developing the young talent that is on the 'timeline' and if someone has a boo boo, they aren't going to play.

Being so contrary to the previous philosophy, it is pretty glaring, but something the NBA is structured to accommodate, so in no way bad sportsmanship or cheating, just annoying.
 
But they aren't actively throwing games or point shaving, just optimizing for development and avoiding giving out minutes in such a way that winning the game is more important than developing the young talent that is on the 'timeline' and if someone has a boo boo, they aren't going to play.
Actually, they are actively throwing games. Sitting your healthy veterans specifically for the games against other tanking teams is throwing games. Not putting back the best players in the fourth until the very last minutes (while the opponent is erasing your lead/puling away) is throwing games. I saw it multiple times this season and it had nothing to do with optimizing for development.
 
Actually, they are actively throwing games. Sitting your healthy veterans specifically for the games against other tanking teams is throwing games. Not putting back the best players in the fourth until the very last minutes (while the opponent is erasing your lead/puling away) is throwing games. I saw it multiple times this season and it had nothing to do with optimizing for development.
Since the coach has specifically called out putting the youngins in ‘difficult situations’ purpose, I think there is at least some evidence to the contrary.
 
NIL had heavily impacted the NFL draft and it is easy to imagine it having big impact on the NBA draft unless some type of cap or limit is placed on college teams. Just one more reason why the draft is a complete crap shoot. Trade for talent, not picks.
 
NIL had heavily impacted the NFL draft and it is easy to imagine it having big impact on the NBA draft unless some type of cap or limit is placed on college teams. Just one more reason why the draft is a complete crap shoot. Trade for talent, not picks.
How did the NFL draft get impacted by NIL?
 
Good prospects staying an extra year in college because the NIL money is great. Just impacts timing - when a player will enter is up in the air now.
Serious questions, since I'm not paying much attention:
  • Does the NIL money in football affect the choices of top draft picks, or primarily only middling/lower draft picks?
  • What (in approximate terms) is the ratio of NIL money to NFL money for the players who might choose to stay in college? How does this compare to the ratio for those in basketball?
 
Just did a quick google search and found this from last year. Plenty of talk about it and I dont remember all of the players but this year in football there were a few surprises such as Carson Beck who was expected to enter the NFL draft and instead went to Miami for 4 mil. When you see basketball players getting 7 mil a year it can be tempting to hang around another year. My guess is that Flagg will do very well if he stays at Duke.


 
Just did a quick google search and found this from last year. Plenty of talk about it and I dont remember all of the players but this year in football there were a few surprises such as Carson Beck who was expected to enter the NFL draft and instead went to Miami for 4 mil. When you see basketball players getting 7 mil a year it can be tempting to hang around another year. My guess is that Flagg will do very well if he stays at Duke.


So the emphasis of this article is on the later rounds of the NFL draft, as players who can get good NIL money may not want to get into the draft early if they're not projected for the early draft rounds?

I could see something similar with lower-ranking prospects for the NBA (and maybe already has with players like Armando Bacot).
 
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