Corbin disrespect Kanter

[fishonjazz]

It's strategic to play a guy who either can't or chooses not to box out, pass or defend?

So play a guy who cannot defend, shoot, dribble, and is not even a little bit of a threat to score and won't be on the team next year and likely will not improve.

Good call

 

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Dude.... I wish Burks could play C

 

[Dr. Jones]

It's strategic to play a guy who either can't or chooses not to box out, pass or defend?

I'm just stirring, GVC..

generically speaking, though, I'm not one inch closer to believing Corbin is an average coach.

 

[Dr. Jones]

Dude.... I wish Burks could play C

if it helps.. u may be able to convince kkk of it.

 

[Diamond77]

It means the coach wants him to not play like absolute **** if he wants minutes.

Why this theory does not work with Hayward?!

 

[Diamond77]

Good!

Kanter has been an absolute disaster lately. Turning the ball over every single time he touches it, poor picks on the perimeter resulting in offensive fouls, and pathetic defense.

It seems to me that if we want to at least somewhat base mins on performance and keep players accountable, everyone here should be praising Corbin.

As much as I hate Corbin I got his back on this one. Enes Fesenko needs to sit down, learn, grow up, and play with at least half a brain.

If Enes isn't going to post up, pass when he gets the ball and doesn't have a shot, set good screens, rebound, or play any semblence of even Boozer matador defense, then what good is he out there on the court? Good for Corbin to play Evans, gobert, And biedrins.

Kanter, learn from it. This is the development process.

It sounds more as humiliating process!

 

[Diamond77]

How did biedrins play in his place?

How did the team play last night when kanter was out?

I add...how did Evans play on defense?

 

[The Fresh Prince]

The deja vu experience around here is when jazzfanzers quote the stats of our center....

"Al Jefferdad is putting up 19 and 9. He's obviously playing pretty awesome...."

I gotta spread the rep around. Funny **** doe.

 

[franklin]

The only arguments you can make for Corbin playing Kanter significant minutes right now is that it might help him get through whatever the **** is wrong with him and/or help the Jazz lose.

Play Kanter more.

And take those minutes from Trey.

 

[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

Edit: as your reading this post pretend you've already made the rediculus comment about needing big minutes to get better.

Thankyou.

I'm just going to say it now to save time for those that can't see it.

If Kanter Can't be motivated to play smarter, and harder by having his minutes limited, he needs to be traded

Decided to skip past all the "yeah, but he needs playing time to get better" that's crap. You don't need 35 minutes a game to play smart or harder. Those are the minutes you get once you do those things, then you get better. Favors is a good example of this.

 

[txjazzfan]

I'm not gonna say that Kanter is good or bad, but this is the year to see if these draft picks can play and have a future with the Jazz. Let them play through mistakes and struggles and then evaluate at the end of the year.

 

[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

For the record, Kanter is starting to turn into Al Jefferson. Whenever he gets it in the post it never gets passed back out even when he gets into trouble. He either shoots a prayer that has little chance of going in or he turns it over.... I guess there's a third senario, sometimes he does pass when in trouble the problem is he recognizes it too late and throws a bad pass which is then a turnover or puts the team in a bind with a very short clock wich either results in a bad shot or a shot clock violation.

 

[Borat]

The deja vu experience around here is when jazzfanzers quote the stats of our center....

"Al Jefferdad is putting up 19 and 9. He's obviously playing pretty awesome...."

Funny, but rather unintelligent. Perhaps you did not not notice drop off in team performance with departure of AJ and Millsap? And if a 21 year old center is putting up 15 and 7, he should not have his minutes taken by pathetic scrubs who will be off the team next year.

 

[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

I'm not gonna say that Kanter is good or bad, but this is the year to see if these draft picks can play and have a future with the Jazz. Let them play through mistakes and struggles and then evaluate at the end of the year.

Did you not read my post right above yours. You don't need heavy minutes to find out what a player has! More playing time is what you earn after you learn how to play. Then you get better.

 

[The Fresh Prince]

I think it's going to be tough for Kanter to make it in this league, pretty easy to see he gets overwhelmed easily.

 

[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

I think it's going to be tough for Kanter to make it in this league, pretty easy to see he gets overwhelmed easily.

Kanter's problem is he's he's a natural big 4 in a league going away from big 4's, and it seems he's regressed in his post defense from a year ago, so he's not making for a candidate to play C.

 

[txjazzfan]

Did you not read my post right above yours. You don't need heavy minutes to find out what a player has! More playing time is what you earn after you learn how to play. Then you get better.

No, I didn't read your post. We may have been posting at the same time. Yes, I understand about earning playing time. These guys have not been getting a lot the minutes in the past when they had Jefferson and Millsap in front of them. In a year when we aren't gonna make the playoffs you need to let these guys develop and play through struggles. If we were a playoff team then I would agree with the earn your minutes theory. With Kanter being a 3rd overall pick, you need to give him the time on the court. If he doesn't progress or fit in to the future plans then trade him at the end of the year.

 

[GVC]

Why this theory does not work with Hayward?!

I imagine it does. Hayward is usually doing what he's supposed to be doing out on the floor. He's just being asked to fill a role he's not very good at filling.

Kanter continues to make the same basic mistakes every time he's on the floor. He doesn't seem to grasp team basketball at all.

 

[GVC]

Yeah. Corbin would much rather see Beidrins play like absolute ****.

1. Biedrins tends to be in the right spots more frequently than Enes.

2. You can't break what's already broken. There's still hope for Kanter, and he shouldn't just be handed minutes if he's going to continue playing like he's completely overwhelmed.

I didn't think Kanter looked THAT bad last night. There's some progress defensively (although Corbin had them defend the pick and roll a bit differently last night). Had there not been so much garbage time, he likely would have played 28-ish minutes.

 

[GVC]

so, like Big Al?

The last two seasons, Big Al passed and rebounded much better than Enes has so far this season. His defense was also much better than Enes's.

So, no, not really.