Corbin not expected to sign extension before season

[dipship31]

There will be plenty of times to judge him throughout the year without looking at wins/losses. I think it's unlikely, but I do feel there's a chance Corbin could do a good job. Now he has to the roster to prove it and it has to be fast. As sad as it is we're already about halfway through the Hayward/Favors era (if there's a Deron type situation in a few years) and we don't even know what we have yet so we really don't have the luxury to wait for a coach to learn on the job.

That all said it's Corbin's job to lose and as long as he does mediocre he'll be on our sideline the next 4 years.

 

[Farmer.Tan]

Last year all we heard was how difficult of a job it was for Corbin with all the free agents.
This year, all we will hear is how difficult his job is with all the rookies and young guys.
There's always gonna be something. Real coaches find ways to win despite the circumstances...not look for excuses caused by circumstances.

 

[cctrackstar]

What I really want to see, but would be hard to quantify is what the new assistant coaching staff does. Hornacek gone, others bumped up, and new hirings. It's not all just the head coach, and I have little faith in Lowe. What difference will the changes make?

 

[Flc]

This actually seems pretty obvious to me - the reason the Jazz are such a strong organization is that they run it under a goal-oriented business model. Note how often the GM, coaching staff, and even players reference the goals that they have throughout each season.

For the past two years, the goals that management and Corbin agreed on were to make the playoffs. They knew they didn't have a championship-caliber team, but set their goal as the playoffs anyway.

Corbin's first full year they got to the playoffs, the goal is met, and he's offered an extension.
The next year, same goal - get to the playoffs. The goal isn't met, so Corbin isn't offered an extension.

They're very clear on the goals this year as well - build a strong defensive team while developing the young players. My guess is they probably have metrics associated with this that they're not commenting on in public, but I'm sure Corbin has targets that he's shooting for - opposing team field goal percent, opposing team points per possession, opposing team total points allowed, etc. As well as growth metrics for each of the young players.

If Corbin hits the targets, he'll be extended past this year. If he doesn't, he'll be let go, because that would be two years in a row of not meeting goals.

That's a really smart way to run an organization.

(And as a side note, it does help to explain some of Corbin's decisions over the past few years. If you're given a goal: make it to the playoffs - you'd put your best players on the court for the lion's share of the minutes, and not worry too much about young player development because - even if JazzFanz doesn't agree with it - it isn't the primary goal. I'm actually hopeful about what he'll do this year, because despite the fact that I don't think Corbin is the sharpest tool in the shed, I think he really wants to meet the goals that are set for him. And the goals that are set now are the ones we've wanted the team to have for the past couple years.)

 

[franklin]

This was a pretty thoughtful thread.

 

[Getting Traded]

This actually seems pretty obvious to me - the reason the Jazz are such a strong organization is that they run it under a goal-oriented business model. Note how often the GM, coaching staff, and even players reference the goals that they have throughout each season.

For the past two years, the goals that management and Corbin agreed on were to make the playoffs. They knew they didn't have a championship-caliber team, but set their goal as the playoffs anyway.

Corbin's first full year they got to the playoffs, the goal is met, and he's offered an extension.
The next year, same goal - get to the playoffs. The goal isn't met, so Corbin isn't offered an extension.

They're very clear on the goals this year as well - build a strong defensive team while developing the young players. My guess is they probably have metrics associated with this that they're not commenting on in public, but I'm sure Corbin has targets that he's shooting for - opposing team field goal percent, opposing team points per possession, opposing team total points allowed, etc. As well as growth metrics for each of the young players.

If Corbin hits the targets, he'll be extended past this year. If he doesn't, he'll be let go, because that would be two years in a row of not meeting goals.

That's a really smart way to run an organization.

(And as a side note, it does help to explain some of Corbin's decisions over the past few years. If you're given a goal: make it to the playoffs - you'd put your best players on the court for the lion's share of the minutes, and not worry too much about young player development because - even if JazzFanz doesn't agree with it - it isn't the primary goal. I'm actually hopeful about what he'll do this year, because despite the fact that I don't think Corbin is the sharpest tool in the shed, I think he really wants to meet the goals that are set for him. And the goals that are set now are the ones we've wanted the team to have for the past couple years.)

Well, Flc, if you are right in your assessment, that shows the FO and Jazzfanz are not in agreement with the goal to win a championship. The road to the championship should not have been to make the playoffs the last two years but to develop the young players and see what they have to offer, rather than waiting until it's too late and going back to the drawing board again. Also, it cost us the chance to draft some very good players that would've contributed to the future championship. Think of how much further ahead we would've been. This was not a wise decision by the FO, and many of us were pointing this out two years ago. Everyone is always saying that the people on here don't know as much as the FO about basketball. But in many cases, a lot of us are better educated than they are. How many FO people have grad degrees I wonder, but I'll wager many of us do in a variety of fields and our hobby is watching basketball. This can translate to basketball analysis.

Furthermore, in some cases, Corbin's choice of the vet over younger player was not in the best interests of winning games.